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To: muawiyah

I didn't imply that all cops were that way,
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I am glad that you agree that all cops are not that way, you might need one someday to save your life. I hope to God you show a little more respect for them then. As for the rest of your statement, I choose not to respond except to say that when LE are shot at or threatened, you cannot be surprised if they shoot back or otherwise defend themselves; which is what happened at Ruby Ridge and in Cincinnati.


1,500 posted on 03/26/2005 8:28:01 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: ariamne
Look, several years back a fellow in Indianapolis had to shoot, and kill, a couple of armed officers who barged into his house right after they'd shot his dogs (for whatever reason).

These guys had no warrant whatsoever describing persons or things to be seized.

The guy walked since he was within his rights.

The Ruby Ridge thing was similar in that the cops simply didn't have a warrant for the kid.

We had a yahoo from Prince George's County follow a student to his home in Fairfax County all the way from Howard University.

The cop had no warrant. He wasn't particularly authorized to come into Virginia either, and as it turned out, the student he shot to death wasn't wanted for anything.

The prosecutors and cops stood behind the shooter so he walked. More recently an FBI agent shot an Eagle Scout in the jaw. This boy had the unfortunate luck of being a passenger in a car stopped by Maryland cops.

It took weeks to find the name of the shooter. The cops and prosecutors protected him to the end.

Amazingly these stories stick in my mind, and even more so when it's involved a cop I know like Lon Horiuchi. Frankly I had no idea the guy was a sociopath until the Ruby Ridge thing. I tend to avoid those people.

I think untested cops should be sent into situations like that in Pinellas UNARMED until such time as conditions change to justify their being armed, then they should simply be withdrawn pending the outcome of negotiations.

1,502 posted on 03/26/2005 8:38:21 PM PST by muawiyah
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