Police 'Showdown' Averted ['Team of State Agents Were En Route to Seize Terri']

Miami Herald ^ | Sat, Mar. 26, 2005 | CAROL MARBIN MILLER

[West Coast Conservative]

Hours after a judge ordered that Terri Schiavo was not to be removed from her hospice, a team of state agents were en route to seize her and have her feeding tube reinserted -- but they stopped short when local police told them they would enforce the judge's order, The Herald has learned.

Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement told police in Pinellas Park, the small town where Schiavo lies at Hospice Woodside, on Thursday that they were on the way to take her to a hospital to resume her feeding.

For a brief period, local police, who have officers at the hospice to keep protesters out, prepared for what sources called ``a showdown.''

In the end, the squad from the FDLE and the Department of Children & Families backed down, apparently concerned about confronting local police outside the hospice.

''We told them that unless they had the judge with them when they came, they were not going to get in,'' said a source with the local police.

''The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,'' said an official with the city police who requested anonymity. ``When the sheriff's department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.''

The incident,known only to a few and related to The Herald by three different sources involved in Thursday's events, underscores the intense emotion and murky legal terrain that the Schiavo case has created. It also shows that agencies answering directly to Gov. Jeb Bush had planned to use a wrinkle in Florida law that would have allowed them to legally get around the judge's order. The exception in the law allows public agencies to freeze a judge's order whenever an agency appeals it.

[politicket]

saying "do what God would have us do".....is simply not the best answer always in an ordered society....

I sure hope that you don't really mean this statement. Doing what God teaches through His word is the only hope that our country has.

but you are placing yourself in the position of judging what God thinks about Bush and using bible verses to substantiate what you wrote to darkwolf earlier....how do you know anyone turned their back to God, and yes the Pres is sworn to uphold the law of the land....yes, Christ did say that his law was supreme.....he also said render on to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's.....we can taught and led by the principles of the bible but sometimes they do not translate well in matters with mutiple sides in this complex society

God's word "translates" very well to all things. Regarding Jeb Bush I simply pointed out that God placed him in his position of power. God also gives many examples of good leaders, and bad leaders. We are taught that good leaders such as King Josiah are looked favorably upon by God. We are taught that bad leaders, such as Ahab, sadden God.

You mentioned that I use bible verses to substantiate things. How else would you like me to do it?

[hleewilder]

LOL. In my part of the woods, we elaborated 'Match' with 'Your Breath and Buffalo (Flatulence)'.

[HiTech RedNeck]

I am glad to come to Jesus Christ like a little child.

You are the one oh so worldly and mature, you would never take the Bible straight on its face. You would march on so dignified, grownup, and proudly into the lake of fire prepared for Satan and his angels.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

You qualify for that argument, because you make points using logical fallacy. After having pointed it out, you have not corrected your use of logic, therefore it is rational to state that you lack in intelligence.

Oh, I "lack in intelligence", do I? LOL

Well, you're not so bright yourself, champ, but at least I've managed to teach you to spell ad hominem, even if you still don't recognize an ad hominem attack when you use one.

That's progress, I suppose.

Dumbass.

[Just mythoughts]

"My sole point regarding Jeb Bush is that God placed him in his position of power. Along with that position comes civil government responsibilities enumerated in scripture. Scripture also informs us in "1 Timothy" that those in authority over us have more to answer for on judgment day. I will have to answer for my leadership over my family. A pastor will have to answer for leadership over his congregation. A person with civil government authority (Jeb Bush) will have to answer for his leadership.

As I said earlier, I am sorrowful for Jeb Bush since he clearly had an opportunity to take a stand for God's word and failed."

Wait a minute 'IF' God place Jeb into power then shouldn't you let God judge Jeb as to whether or not Jeb is following what God wants done.

Each one of us is responsible for our own actions and we are not in charge of dictating what God is doing, will do, or is not doing.

Now if things are not happening the way YOU see fit then you need take another look and see the purpose of what is actually going on.

There is a reason for this case and it is not Jeb Bush's fault. Jeb Bush is not the savior on a white horse.

[Chad Fairbanks]

ROTFLMAO.

[mandatum]

Anyone who knows any Cops knows that most of them don't do allot of thinking.

I know two cops very well: my sons. They both went to college, one served in the Army, and both know how to spell "a lot."

Must run in the family. Deacons don't like to do a lot of thinking either.

[politicket]

And since there is NOTHING at all left for the president and his brother to do, they have fulfilled what GOD required of them to do. They just haven't/aren't doing what wen want them to do.

Case closed! :-)

That sounds like a quote from Pontius Pilate.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Wow. So, mandatum, is there anyone you DON'T hate?

[NorCalRepub]

go back and tell me where I trashed "YOU".....in fact unless attacked, I'm very careful not to trash anyone....all I can say is you are not hearing what I"m saying and speculating on my values and or motives....fine but I'll let God do that......equating this with what Nazi Germany did is a Democratic of liberal tactic and in this case I don't agree......you can think I"m wrong, but when you start to tell me I'm basically siding with the Nazi's is the time I think your intellectual powers of persuasion and influence are lost on feeble and Himmler type mind.../sarc off of course

[hleewilder]

Are you one? I mean, do you know the secret handshake and all that?

Because if being a "Christian" is spouting some of the stuff I've seen posted here, I'm not impressed.

[mjtobias]

"something over 65% say that they believe, as horrible as it is, is the right thing to do."

of course that number is high, but this is due to the influx and invasion of 3rd world illegal aliens. expect this number to be even higher in the foreseeable future as the then President will have his hands tied and no consensus of the people.

that number being so high is expected as it represents the pool of people (legal and illega) living in the USA. It's not the same pool as, say, the one during WWII. The country is changing, and changing for the worst.

Demographics is destiny.

[NorCalRepub]

ok......fine......i'm too tired to argue......go tell it to Congress, Pres Bush, Jeb, their attorney's, etc....and then don't vote for them.....rehashing this crap on FR is a waste of time and effort about this point

[HiTech RedNeck]

Jeb Bush has a responsibility to God.

He can't do it without "defying court orders" to be true, but he CAN claim Florida law, and the Legislature would certainly back him up as to that law if the court petitioned the Legislature to impeach.

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

Excellent, well put analysis. From this distance, that seems to be exactly what the situation is. In the main, this is not some example of the greater "run-away" judiciary. Like you wrote it is an old fashioned small town network of criminal conspiracy. That Jeb would allow it to be the cause of the loss of an innocent human being is totally, humanely inexcusable. Let God do the forgiving, He's better at it anyway. We human beings need to do what we do best. Keep each other honest.Very glad to read your opinion.

[bonfire]

Knock it off. Totally uncalled for.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Once more you dodge and evade. If you know so much about what is "not Christian," surely you can tell us exactly what IS Christian. We're waiting for you to tell us that. Put up, or shut up.

[farmer18th]

Jeb Bush is not the savior on a white horse.

Exactly. Jeb Bush wouldn't even use a pooper-scooper in a July 4th parade, behind the white horse, unless his advisors told him he had the authority to do so.

[KDD]

Remember the premise of the court decision is that she would not want to live in the state she is in and every day that her wishes are delayed is another day her wishes are denied.

Let everyone who wants to examine her, do so for a month. Bring in 100, 1000, 10000, neural surgeons.

Another 100, 1000, 10,000 months?

[northernlightsII]

But by saying that Greer premptively acted before he even had the petition By DCF he himself broke the law and now JB has to obey an order of a judge that is himself outside the law.