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So much for all that pacifism and non-violence. Many left-wingers are racists at heart!
1 posted on 03/25/2005 9:24:33 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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2 posted on 03/25/2005 9:25:25 AM PST by mhking (If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Most leftists will turn violent at the drop of a hat, too.


3 posted on 03/25/2005 9:27:18 AM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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"As we head down the road to the World Government of Socialism that will be demanded by the emotional liberals want. We will have God removed and Satan to rule us."


4 posted on 03/25/2005 9:27:32 AM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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No, I saw the movie. He was a saint!

/sarcasm


5 posted on 03/25/2005 9:28:43 AM PST by Larry Lucido (We miss ya, Indie! Law Enforcement Against Prohibition - http://www.leap.cc)
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Does this mean that Ghandi will get knocked off hid pedestal, in a manner similar to Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, etc.?


6 posted on 03/25/2005 9:28:46 AM PST by popdonnelly
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Finally, I have an opportunity to post this link. I suggest everyone read it. Especially since those anti-war weasels seem to revere this guy as a god. It shows that he was a complete nutball. Click here.
9 posted on 03/25/2005 9:33:48 AM PST by ClaudiusI
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& this article is from a newspaper of a country which was formed against Gandhi's hopes of a united,secular India??A Country where a Christian,Hindu or even Shiite or a Mohajir is treated like thrash-yep these guys certainly have all the prerequisites to call Gandhi a racist.


10 posted on 03/25/2005 9:35:31 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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Gandhi thought black people were subhuman

By Yasser Latif Hamdani

Gandhi’s desire for Indians to be segregated from blacks was so strong that he went to Johannesburg in late August of 1904 to protest the placing of blacks in the Indian section of the city

LAHORE: Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (1870-1948), the man who inspired great leaders like Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King, may have harboured racial sentiments against black people if an article on Sulekha.com is to be believed.

The article quotes a series of letters and petitions from Gandhi, linking the black people of Africa to savages and portraying them as little better than animals. Gandhi writes, “A general belief seems to prevail in the colony that the Indians are little better, if at all, than the savages or natives of Africa. Even the children are taught to believe in that manner, with the result that the Indian is being dragged down to the position of a raw Kaffir”.

According to the article, part of Gandhi’s attitude stemmed from his belief in the Aryan Invasion Theory, claiming that the superior white race from the Steppes subjugated darker races all across Eurasia. Gandhi refused to accept classification with ‘aboriginal’ looking ‘savages’: “A reference to Hunter’s ‘Indian Empire’, chapters 3 and 4, would show at a glance who are aborigines and who are not. The matter is put so plainly that there can be no mistake about the distinction between the two. It will be seen at once from the book that the Indians in South Africa belong to the Indo-Germanic stock or, more properly speaking, the Aryan stock.”

He believed that White rule in South Africa – with the help of a reduction in Asiatic immigration was necessary for civilising the blacks with these characteristics: “We, therefore, have no hesitation in agreeing with the view that in the long run assisted Asiatic immigration - into the Transvaal would be disastrous to the white settlement. People will gradually accommodate themselves to relying upon Asiatic labour, and any White immigration of the special class required in the Transvaal on a large scale will be practically impossible. It would be equally unfair to the natives of the soil. It is all very well to say that they would not work, and that, if the Asiatics were introduced, that would be a stimulus to work; but human nature is the same everywhere, and once Asiatic labour is resorted to, there would not be a sustained effort to induce the natives to work under what would otherwise be, after all, gentle compulsion. There would be then less talk about taxing the natives and so forth. Natives themselves, used as they are to a very simple mode of life, will always be able to command enough wages to meet their wants; and the result will be putting back their progress for an indefinite length of time. We have used the words ‘gentle compulsion’ in the best sense of the term; we mean compulsion of the same kind that a parent exercises over children.”

Gandhi thus remained a firm believer in white settlement and rule in South Africa. More explicitly, he wrote that the White race deserved to be the dominant race in South Africa: “What the British Indians pray for is very little. They ask for no political power. They admit the British race should be the dominant race in South Africa. All they ask for is freedom for those that are now settled and those that may be allowed to come in future to trade, to move about, and to hold landed property without any hindrance save the ordinary legal requirements.”

Along with the dominance of the white race in South Africa, Gandhi also held dear the idea of racial purity: “We believe as much in the purity of race as we think they do, only we believe that they would best serve these interests, which are as dear to us as to them, by advocating the purity of all races, and not one alone. We believe also that the white race of South Africa should be the predominating race.”

Commenting on a petition opposing interactions between the whites and the coloureds, Gandhi wrote: “The petition dwells upon ‘the co-mingling of the coloured and white races’. May we inform the members of the conference that, so far as the British Indians are concerned, such a thing is practically unknown? If there is one thing, which the Indian cherishes, more than any other, it is the purity of type. Why bring such a question into the controversy at all?”

Gandhi’s desire for the Indians to be segregated from the blacks was so strong that he went to Johannesburg in late August of 1904 to protest the placing of blacks in the Indian section of the city: “Why, of all places in Johannesburg, the Indian Location should be chosen for dumping down all the Kaffirs of the town passes my comprehension. ...Of course, under my suggestion, The Town Council must withdraw the Kaffirs from the Location. About this mixing of Kaffirs with the Indians, I must confess I feel most strongly.”

It is unclear from the article whether Gandhi later changed his position. However, it does shed some light on the ideas that shaped the mind of one of the most successful political leaders of the 20th century. *


11 posted on 03/25/2005 9:35:31 AM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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He was also a deviant playboy whom enjoyed pouring oil on his bald head and rubbing it all over women's bodies.


13 posted on 03/25/2005 9:36:14 AM PST by Undecided
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I was amazed to discover that Gandhi was a socialist after hearing so long about what a saintly person he was.

More brain-washing I guess.

And the man did have some strange sexual practices, I do believe.

19 posted on 03/25/2005 9:43:51 AM PST by what's up
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I work with several India-born immigrants (all naturalized US citizens now), all 'degreed professionals', and there definitely is a distinction between the way they treat their 'lighter skintone' colleagues (ethnicity doesn't seem to be a factor) of almost any level within the organization and those of darker tones (darker than 'classic caucasian'; still lighter or darker than themselves). Dare One say "class distinction'?

Skin-lightening is very prevalent and periodically the company DOES quietly allow them to update their 'organizational chart photos' just so the contrast doesn't become so embarrassingly obvious.

(a new guard once refused admittance to an upper executive because her chart picture versus her appearance resembled a 70's michael jackson against his present 'look'. It was all over the facility at lightspeed and a big long letter followed about how good employees ought to be diverse and ignore skin color and be quiet and not snigger and chuckle when embarrassing incidents occur and 'we're watching you' and so forth)

20 posted on 03/25/2005 9:44:25 AM PST by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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This article is from a Pakistani publication. Um, yeah, Pakistan has absolutely no bias whatsoever when it comes to India. /sarcasm


21 posted on 03/25/2005 9:44:59 AM PST by Chiapet
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The Indians have had their caste system for years.

Of course it's not surprising that this springs from a pro- Aryan type of philosophy like Gandhi seems to have had.

24 posted on 03/25/2005 9:47:10 AM PST by what's up
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There is much evidence that in his last years Gandhi was in a kind of spiritual retreat and, with all his endless praying and fasting, was no longer pursuing (the very words seem strange in a Hindu context) "the public good." What he was pursuing, in a strict reversion to Hindu tradition, was his personal holiness. In earlier days he had scoffed at the title accorded him, Mahatma (literally "great soul"). But toward the end, during the hideous paroxysms that accompanied independence, with some of the most unspeakable massacres taking place in Calcutta, he declared, "And if the whole of Calcutta swims in blood, it will not dismay me. For it will be a willing offering of innocent blood." And in his last days, after there had already been one attempt on his life, he was heard to say, "*I am a true Mahatma.*"

Cordially,

26 posted on 03/25/2005 9:52:26 AM PST by Diamond
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I knew there was something about Ben Kingsley that I thought was amiss.

28 posted on 03/25/2005 9:54:33 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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If you signed up on FR to post drivel like this, you are in the wrong place.
32 posted on 03/25/2005 10:09:53 AM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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Gandhi was a young man when he was in South Africa. He had been raised within the Indian caste system and it's no surprise that his views during that time reflected his upbringing.

Even so, he was always a squeaky wheel during those years and stuck his neck out for his community. When he returned to India in his later years, he fought vigorously to lift the so-called "untouchables" from their pariah-hood and end the abject discrimination that they endured within the caste system.

Gandhi's spiritual journey was a life-long event and his place in history and his influence are assured. Even George Wallace came to embrace those he had attempted to deny.


36 posted on 03/25/2005 10:19:20 AM PST by telebob
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People change and any public figure is going to have something, somewhere that could be dug up and make them look bad.

And Gandhi certainly had his good points.

"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." -- Mahatma Gandhi

37 posted on 03/25/2005 10:26:24 AM PST by Tribune7
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This story may be true, but as it comes from a Pakistani newspaper, and I have heard all manner of nonsense from Pakistanis and Indians about each other, I think I will wait to hear it from a less obviously biased source.


43 posted on 03/25/2005 10:42:15 AM PST by wideminded
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I see nothing wrong with your post. The fact is that most leftist icons are racists and or socialists. Thanks for the info.


53 posted on 03/25/2005 11:01:17 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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