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Jeb Bush not likely to to ride to rescue
World Net Daily | March 25, 2005 | Pool

Posted on 03/25/2005 8:05:47 AM PST by yatros from flatwater

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To: glennaro

Both are horrible results.

The latter may mean more innocents will die at the hands of the judiciary.


41 posted on 03/25/2005 9:39:36 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: yatros from flatwater
To have someone starve to death troubles me greatly and we have done everything we can and we will continue to do so within the powers that I have."

No, no, no Governor. Quit pulling a Clinton on the public by parsing words and phrases and tell it like it is. It's not a matter of "within the powers that I have". It has become a matter of the powers Judge Greer tells you that he will allow you to have.

Too many judicial scholars with unquestionable credentials have stated that you DO HAVE the authority to save Terri Schiavo's life but you choose to be a servant of Judge Greer instead of the law you swore to uphold.

You Sir, are a charlatan.

42 posted on 03/25/2005 9:40:40 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: tscislaw
Well, what's keeping YOU from rescuing her? Fear of the consequences, perhaps?

Because I have not been vested with executive power in the state of Florida, I do not have the authority. What authority and influence I do have, I excersice fully. If you gather up all my posts here on this subject, you'll see that.

It's a fair question.

I also live 1100 miles away. If I was there, I would be there if being there was the most I could do. I don't know what I would do if there. Would I get locked up? Probably. But I'd insist of having access to the internet while inside. Maybe I'd blog from Woodside.

I'm calling on the executive to use the full limits of his authority to save an innocent life.

43 posted on 03/25/2005 9:44:51 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("remember, from ashes you came, to ashes you will return.")
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To: varon

I agree that he has the power.

I think he's trying to avoid bloodshed between the state policy removing her and the sheriffs who were illegally ordered by Judge Greer to resist.

It seems to me that the Gov.'s orders take precedence over a probate judge's. Also, that state police could order county sheriffs to stand down.


44 posted on 03/25/2005 9:46:17 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: tomahawk

"state police", not "state policy".


45 posted on 03/25/2005 9:46:51 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: yatros from flatwater; Jeff Head; joanie-f; AmericanInTokyo; Alamo-Girl; marron; xzins; ...
If we had that ability to do it, if there wasn't an injunction, we would do it right now.

Oh, he still has the ability to do it, injunction or no. The act would clearly be within his statutory authority as chief executive of the state. No court can legitimately restrain him from the exercise of his executive perogative to carry out his duties under the Florida Constitution and statutory law. This is a judicial usurpation pure and simple.

The question isn't: Can he? It's will he? And I think the answer will prove to be: NO.

46 posted on 03/25/2005 9:53:32 AM PST by betty boop (If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking. -- Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: dmz
threats, made no threats, insinuated, maybe,

but no threat made here,

So Lighten up
47 posted on 03/25/2005 9:57:54 AM PST by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: betty boop
Agreed, as I said above.
48 posted on 03/25/2005 9:59:04 AM PST by yatros from flatwater (Justice, Justice, you shall pursue!)
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To: vin-one

It seemed to me incredibly STUPID for Gov. Bush to ASK?? the court for permission to take Terri. He should have known beforehand that the request would be denied. If he had wanted to do it; he just should have done it and swept up the mess afterward.
Why did he first ask? Either because he didn't want to grab and snatch, but wanted to appear like he was doing everything. (Evangelicals are known for NOT being empowered; nor are they aggressive in seeking their rights.)
The other reason is that he is stupidly listening TOO much to his LAWYERS, who all seem to defer to the COURTS as the final arbiter in deciding what the government can and cannot do.
Perhaps, their range of influence will be extended to whether or not to wage war. Do you know anyone who would support this extension of power??


49 posted on 03/25/2005 10:06:33 AM PST by noah (noah)
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To: betty boop
He is clearly a pained man. You can see that on his face. Poor Governor.

However, just my reading of his facial expressions and tone of voice yesterday when he stated his hands are tied, I did denote a kind of whiny, wobbling, shaking tone of voice, a kind of 'deer in the headlights' look, misplaced grimaces and darting eyes.

Look, this is when a man really finds it in himself to stand and deliver.

Some Governors (even on the wrong side of US history) stood without flinching. Wrong side governors strike me as Wallace, Maddox, Faubus, etc. Wrong but strong, grounded, principled and unflinching. Just as were Bobby Kennedy and Katzenbach.

But I did not get any of that from Governor Bush's darting eyes and somewhat shellshocked, "akirame" (as the Japanese would say), "It's out of my hands, what can I do?" kind of demeanor.

I feel for the guy, but this may well be his moment in history and moment as a man.

50 posted on 03/25/2005 10:07:19 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: yatros from flatwater


Quid est veritas, Jeb?
51 posted on 03/25/2005 10:08:10 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: paul51
How about the possibility he is doing what he thinks is right given the situation and the authority he has.? Just because it doesn't agree with your sense of what every one should be doing doesn't mean they are wrong and you are right.

Sorry, it doesn't wash. You're introducing the obfuscating element of subjectivity into an objective standard: "no one shall be denied the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...." -- See the Florida Constitution (paraphrased here). Believe it's Article 1, section 2.

Correct me?

52 posted on 03/25/2005 10:08:41 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("remember, from ashes you came, to ashes you will return.")
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

whatever.


53 posted on 03/25/2005 10:09:40 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("remember, from ashes you came, to ashes you will return.")
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Did anyone else notice or sense what I noticed and sensed (as articulated in my #50 here) in seeing Gov. Bush late yesterday on the TV????


54 posted on 03/25/2005 10:10:02 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I feel for the guy, but this may well be his moment in history and moment as a man.

Some men are born to lead, others become leaders by accident of birth. It's becoming clear which type Jeb Bush is.

A modern Honorius--arguing over legal matters while Alaric sacks Rome.
55 posted on 03/25/2005 10:11:33 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Antoninus
I believe he has no Presidential ambitions.

But one thing is for sure.

This seals it for the Governor, that he will not be elected.

Even the Democrats. but certainly conservatives in the primaries, would probably use that press conference video yesterday to show His Wobblyness, whining under pressure, rather than as a real man, tested by steel and standing at the abyss, reaching up deep and finding his guts inside, then damning the torpedoes, going full speed ahead.

56 posted on 03/25/2005 10:15:34 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Illegal Aliens "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Are $1.4 Billion A Year For California Taxpayers)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Yes, his cowering was apparent. He'd heard from his masters regarding his DCF misapprehension. He will not by any means buck the legal/judicial curia.
57 posted on 03/25/2005 10:15:36 AM PST by yatros from flatwater (Justice, Justice, you shall pursue!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I feel for the guy, but this may well be his moment in history and moment as a man.

I see it that way, too, AmericanInTokyo. Including the "akirame" part. :^(

58 posted on 03/25/2005 10:17:48 AM PST by betty boop (If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking. -- Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: yatros from flatwater
Since when is 1/3 a majority?!"

Two branches of government have spoken in unisen, the third dissembles and the other two shut up. Since when? Is one third more right than the other two by necessity - no. How did they become a majority? Simple, because the other two branches assent. Isn't that what we've been fighting against. Bush needs to stop assenting to giving them majority status by default and act. Get off your BUTT Jeb!!
59 posted on 03/25/2005 10:18:36 AM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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To: vin-one

I'd prefer to have the adulterer-husband arrested and charged with abuse and cruel and unusual punishment upon his spouse.

Well .. charging the hospital could preclude the cops shooting Terri - to keep people from taking her - so I think people better think twice about it.


60 posted on 03/25/2005 10:21:31 AM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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