Dinosaur Find Takes Scientists Beyond Bones

New York Times ^ | March 25, 2005 | John Noble Wilford

[Mr. Mojo]

Cloning time!

[Chiapet]

Related post here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1369945/posts

[mrsmith]

You should use the original title: "Dinosaur Find Takes Scientists Beyond Bones "

Saves on duplicate posts.

[infocats]

Point taken!

[mrsmith]

Just hit the abuse button and ask the moderator.

You can add your remarks in parenthesis after the title.

Looks like we'll be having some more hot crevo threads... It seems a miracle that this tissue was preserved :-)

[carlr]

Moreover, an examination with a scanning electron microscope showed the dinosaur's blood vessels to be "virtually indistinguishable" from those recovered from ostrich bones.

Imagine how difficult it must have been for a T-Rex to stick his head in the ground.

[Termite_Commander]

*locks self in closet and watches for Ostriches*

[Servant of the 9]

70 Million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex discovered in Montana has apparently yielded the improbable, scientists reported yesterday: soft tissues, including blood vessels and possibly cells lining them, that "retain some of their original flexibility, elasticity and resilience."

And their DNA?

So9

[Publius6961]

Since all the Nobel Prize winners yesterday convinced me that this is impossible, I will ignore this thread.
Don't even want to hear about any further inquiry, study, speculation or examination!

La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la...

[Condor51]

a 70-million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex discovered in Montana

Impossible!
Well at least according to those here who say unequivocally that the Earth is only 10,000 years old.

(no offense - really. believe what you want. just don't push it off on my grand kids)

[Sidebar Moderator]

Please do not change the title of an article. For easier reading, please do not use italics for the article. Thank you.

[ClearCase_guy]

Evolution is about the transition of one species to another.

Now they have evidence that the blood vessels of a dinosaur from 70 million years ago is virtually the same as that of an ostrich.

Such similarity is evidence of evolution, because evolution is about how dramatic change occurs over millions of years. And when you find things that stay the same, then you know for sure that things change.

Or something like that.

[Condor51]

***Imagine how difficult it must have been for a T-Rex to stick his head in the ground.****

Uh, you've never seen the pot holes in Chicago's streets have you.
(even 70 million years ago, the Democrats ruled Chicago)

[loreldan]

To me I think this calls into question the accuracy of scientific dating methods - carbon-dating, whatever. There's no way tissue like this could last 70,000,000 years. 70,000 millenia? Wow!!! Forgive my skepticism.

Back in the 17th century native Americans had legends and claimed sightings of mammoths according to early explorers, yet no scientific dating methods have dated mammoth remains as even remotely recent. It's possible these claims were erroneous yet not probable given there were at least a dozen of them recorded.

[American Vet Repairman]

"There's no way tissue like this could last 70,000,000 years."

Evolution takes more faith than Christianity.

OBTW...If an animal that lage is to have tissue to survive he must have died and been buried in quick order. Like in a flood perhaps?

[katana]

I agree with your skepticism. Soft tissue? In what kind of strata was it found? Unless it was in an ice formation that went back to that time this makes no sense at all. Even stuff from 50 thousand years ago stuck in anaerobic tar pits decompose to nothing but hard bone. This opens a lot of questions a reasonably informed reporter should have asked.

[Dutch Boy]

"This opens a lot of questions a reasonably informed reporter should have asked."

Unfortunately, that will never take place in this day and age. Reporters want to make a difference. Odd, when I was growing up a reporter actually reported and dug until he had answers. Now days most "news" is 10% fact 90% opinion.

[loreldan]

Scientists today are similar to judges as far as status in society. They are unquestionable. Their word is final. It reminds me of the Catholic church in the Middle Ages. Back then if you questioned the church you were held up as a heretic and excommunicated or worse. Today if you question the science of this era or their methods you are held up to ridicule.

[The Great RJ]

Maybe they will find the T-Rex was a victim of global warming/cooling (take your pick). But wait if that is the case how can climatic changes 70 million years ago be tied to the Bush anministration?