I am a true pro-lifer, and work very, very hard for these issues, but I would not ask all of our best and brightest politicians to break the law and be impeached and convicted because then what would we have left to fight the fight? Would this gain us anything?
If we managed to drag Terri out of her hospice room, and rehydrated her, within six weeks, she would be back being dehydrated, the state of Florida might be under martial law, there would certainly be riots all across Florida and possibly across the US. mostly against us, Jeb Bush would be impeached by the state of Florida, then probably charged in the Federal courts for kidnapping, the FBI would be involved, and many other charges, and we would lose any future chance at getting our point across.
What you want is a revolution. What we have the power to do is only an insurrection. We would be crushed and our cause would be put down by the blue states through the courts so fast that you wouldn't know what had happened.
Is this what God wants? What about all the other people who need us to stand by their side and work for their rights?
Do we break the law and totally lose, or do we let God be God and put his plan into work?
You can talk about Jeb being able to do this, if he would only want to. But all he could do would be to take Terri out. He would not be able to keep her safe. He would not be able to reverse the court rulings. He would not be able to change the fact that her guardian of record asked this. He would not be able to change the horrid reality.
The federal courts would not back him.
If George Bush tried to pardon him, he would end up impeached, and be able to do nothing else to further trying to strengthen the right to life laws or any of the other goals we are trying for. He would become political poison, and there would be nothing much passed in the way of legislation, and the judges we desperately need would not get nominated. In fact, steping out as far as he did is going to cost him some, probably.
We need those judges. We need good men and women who respect life and the constitution to be in power.
Think about it.
Crucify me as not being a "true" pro-lifer if you will, but I will say this: God knows what he's doing. His will be done. May God have mercy for us in our gried and sorrow, and be with the Schindlers and Terri. May he show us his way.
In the name of Jesus, Amen.
Hey everyone, just got back on after not hearing any news since this ugly morning.
We still in the same place we were? Terri's mom and dad have filed at the FL Supreme Court I see. It will do no good I'm afraid. Man my heart is just breaking for them and Terri.
Also, anyone heard from JEB today? Is he still hiding out and not doing anything? I can't believe what a coward he has turned out to be!!!
Any updates please PING me!!
No. You make a lot of sense. But what deeply disturbs me is the lack of moral outrage...perhaps everything you're saying is true...it has occurred to me, too...there is no outrage...the President has not even spoken out about the fact that a puny little Florida judge has just run roughshod of the Congress, the President of the United States, the Governor of Florida, and the American People...not to mention the fact that he is murdering an innocent woman.
I'm leaving the Republican party.
Maybe God is calling Terri to be the martyr for the cause, I don't know. But I feel certain this is a test for all of us who are pro-life - a test to trust the Lord which I have heard people post about on this site quite often. Sometimes it's a matter of having the humility of realizing it isn't us...it really is God's will.
A president cannot pardon a governor unless it is a federal crime involved.
Judges need to know that lawlessness will have consequences. So do cops who would follow illegal orders from such judges.
If judges are not slapped down SOON and HARD, it will be impossible ever to slap them down without bloodshed. The longer they go without being slapped down, the more bloodshed will be necessary.
Hi, Knitting -
Just got back in town and am trying to catch up. Thank you so much for this post - I really needed it. My husband and I were discussing Jeb on the way home and while he agrees that Terri's murder is dreadful, he doesn't share my anger at Jeb Bush and feels he did all he could. Your points are very well taken about how what we want is revolution and all we would get is insurrection. You are right that the cause of life in this country would probably be squelched so fast we would never recover. We need to work to get conservative judges in so that this never happens again, and to get conservative legislators in to change the laws. That would be extremely difficult if Jeb and/or George were impeached and the resulting chaos would be very destructive. Thank you for explaining this so succinctly.
I'm a bit behind in reading posts but I totally agree with your #3511 Knitting. Well thoughtout and coherent.
I vascilate between fighting for all I'm worth (I could type more letters and send more $ - but I'm in the top 1% of givers and I have sent enough letters out that I'm justified in complaining) and just letting it "happen" but in reflection the one thing I can do more of is PRAY!
I respect you fully for your view. I have a feeling that this is going to be one of the issues we will all have to grapple with as we face the next few months and sort out all the details. In the meantime, we still can enjoy our tea time together!*Grin*
(_)> (_)> I love you.
I've always wondered, 'what did the 'outrage Allied commanders' expect the local civilians to do? Picket the concentration camp?
History is the real judge. Who are the heroes of WWII? Certainly not the politicians. And not just the Allied military. The greatest heroes are those who broke the law to save others who were going to be killed: from Wallenburg to Corrie Ten Boom.