Jeb Bush Not Likely to Ride to Rescue [Terri Schindler-Schiavo]

WorldNetDaily ^ | 2005-03-25 01:00 EST | Staff

[HiTech RedNeck]

It's what the death doctors call for. Dr. Mengele, except a little nicer with morphine.

[jpsb]

Well since there are thousand of people in similar circumstances I expect Congress will pass a law premitting a more humane method of killing the helpless.

[shezza]

Like a big ol' oven, perhaps? Maybe a chamber that emits poison gas? Those would definitely be a lot quicker than a week of dehydration.

[texasflower]

No one is pretending that things are just wonderful. This is a very tragic thing.

But now, I think things are to the point that we need to accept what is going to happen to Terri and pray for a peaceful transition to the arms of her Father.

You still haven't answered my question though.

Do you think that God can't act unless Jeb does? Do you think that God would ask Jeb and President Bush to do something that would destroy them?

Why?

I say your emotions are getting the best of you and I mean that. I don't know how old you are, but judging by some of your comments and the excessive number of exclamation marks, I'm thinking you are fairly young.

We don't have all the answers, but we DO need to trust in God's neverending love for each of us, including Terri, Jeb and George W. Bush.

God has His hand and His heart with Terri. He will take care of her.

[beyond the sea]

I think one is not unreasonable in expecting a leader to lead. What is being done to this woman is so evil that it demands our leaders oppose it effectively. Jeb like Pilot of 2000 years ago, is washing his hands and walking away. ----------- This woman is not even allowed a drink of water. And our leaders tell us there is nothing they can do. When the law says it is illegal to give a dying woman a drink of water then the law is evil and no one is obligated to obey an immoral, evil law.

I do hear the sentiment of your post. I'm mostly with you. But how can you be sure that Jeb is, "washing his hands and walking away."

EVERYONE (including me) who has stayed at their computers and in front of their tv's and elsewhere........ everyone who has done nothing to stop this "killing" is guilty to some degree. We should all be ashamed, but Jeb has the job, he should have moved by now. It's just WRONG what he is doing. Use the State Police powers, Jeb. Do not be cowed into inaction.

This is all so unnecessary. Stand up for the Florida Constitution as you know it, Jeb. You are the rightful representative of the people of Florida.

[sakic]

If somehow the children got to her what could they then do? It all seems a theater piece rather than a way to help.

[jpsb]

" EVERYONE (including me) who has stayed "

If Jeb Bush asked folks to come to Fla and help him save Terry I would fill up the truck and drive to Fla. Leaders have to lead.

[Walkin Man]

Kennedy, president of Coral Ridge Ministries, said Bush "must act and he must act immediately on her behalf."

"He must disregard the order of Judge Greer," Kennedy said. "He has both the authority and the duty to do so under the state constitution."

Gee I didn't know Dr. Kennedy was a legal expert on the Florida state constitution?

I don't know about anyone else but I am not comfortable with preachers in their pulpits demanding unconstitutional, illegal acts from elected officials.

Maybe its just me...

[Jim Noble]

Someday, somewhere, someone in executive authority will defy a lawless court "order".

But not today, not in Florida, and not Governor Bush.

[MSCASEY]

Why should we accept this unrighteousness? You sound young to me! And to me that was a compliment!!!

How many people have you personally known in your lifetime that have been murdered?
And if so did you accept that also?

I remember reading in the bible about a northern king that God had told he would make his kingdom greater than Davids if he did the right thing. He didn't because he was afraid of the people destroying him. So the people continued to worship false idols and they suffered. God also took care of the king.

God uses people all the time to fulfill His will whether it would be for good or for punishment. If they turn their backs on what is right God will surely turn from them.


MCD

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

I'm sorry to say that it does look like it's over and agree with you. Anything done has to be done legally. The Hail Mary pass options Governor Bush is said to have are only temporary solutions leading to him being removed from office and her having the feeding tube yanked again. He's trying for at least a temporary legal remedy to save her life that eventually leads to a permanent save. There's still cases in court now.

I think President Bush, Congress, and Jeb are doing everything they can for her. Sorry many of you don't agree with that.

[beyond the sea]

Leaders have to lead.

That is true, but doesn't happen too much these days.

We just might be paying the tax rates of the English right now if others long ago were not a different quality of men.

;-)

[Jim Noble]

Why do politicians seek election to office if they are going to hand responsibility for legislating to unelected judges?

They have devised the perfect system.

Once elected, they have access to unlimited booze, broads, and bribes-for life.

The only thing that can go wrong is that-quite incomprehensibly, to them-a mob of their inferiors, on election day, can bring it all to an end.

In order to prevent this, all decisions which could make someone-anyone-upset or angry, are transferred to an unelected judiciary.

Congressthings then can, and do, denounce those judges (but don't exercise their constitutional power to regulate them), while obtaining their preferred result at the same time, and, best of all, none of them loses the best job they've ever had, or ever will have.

Nice work if you can get it.

The Founders referred to (perfectly regular) Acts of Parliament as "acts of pretended legislation" because they contravened the natural law. They took these acts of "pretended legislation" so seriously that they overthrew the government over it.

The body of case law that has developed in this nation for the past 58 years is at this point an irritant to the body politic, but, inasmuch as it contravenes the intent of the same Supreme Judge to which our founders appealed to vouchsafe the rectitude of their intentions, may at some time in the future again lead to war.

[mewzilla]

I just saw a Pubbie and a Dem political strategist on FNC singing kumbaya and saying can't we all get along? Terri's going to die, but we tried, c'est la vie. Nobody remembers the tsunami victims now. This will all go away....

As a Dem who's been voting Pubbie for the last 7 years, all I can say is A POX ON BOTH THEIR HOUSES.

We need a third party.

[texasflower]

You haven't answered my questions directly. I would love to hear how you answer.

Yes, God uses people all the time but I think God would have made a way for Terri much earlier than this. The fact that it is to this point and nothing has worked makes me think, deep in my spirit, that God wants to bring Terri home.

FTR, I'm 45, so I will accept your compliment.

[Cboldt]

Is there a law against murder in Florida?

The state of legal and medical ethics in this country is out there for all to see. Legally, technically, this is not even suicide, per Florida statute.

If Terri had a living will, she would have been starved to death years ago, as the court would construe the language of the living will as the patient's wishes to go without food and water, if it is "artificailly provided" (whatever that might mean is beyond me, "virtual food" maybe).

(10) "Life-prolonging procedure" means any medical procedure, treatment, or intervention, including artificially provided sustenance and hydration ...

765.303 Suggested form of a living will.

Declaration made this _____ day of _____, (year) , I, __________, willfully and voluntarily make known my desire that my dying not be artificially prolonged under the circumstances set forth below, and I do hereby declare that, if at any time I am incapacitated and

(initial) I have a terminal condition
or (initial) I have an end-stage condition
or (initial) I am in a persistent vegetative state

and if my attending or treating physician and another consulting physician have determined that there is no reasonable medical probability of my recovery from such condition, I direct that life-prolonging procedures be withheld or withdrawn when the application of such procedures would serve only to prolong artificially the process of dying, and that I be permitted to die naturally with only the administration of medication or the performance of any medical procedure deemed necessary to provide me with comfort care or to alleviate pain.

That language is construed as permission to remove a feeding tube from an otherwise healthy, but PVS, terminal, or end-stage patient. Despite the "natural" reading of the "contract."

765.309 Mercy killing or euthanasia not authorized; suicide distinguished.--

(1) Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to condone, authorize, or approve mercy killing or euthanasia, or to permit any affirmative or deliberate act or omission to end life other than to permit the natural process of dying.

(2) The withholding or withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures from a patient in accordance with any provision of this chapter does not, for any purpose, constitute a suicide.

Chapter 765, Florida Statutes 2004 <-- Link

[dalebert]

I think Jeb has tried his best and needs to be thanked for his efforts. There are a lot of hard questions the family lawyers should have been asking before now.

[BloomNTn]

My heart is breaking over this. Terri was not dying before last week and now she has no chance to live unless God grants her a miracle. The family has bravely fought this horrible battle for their daughter's life. They have exhausted every legal avenue. I weep when I see their helplessness in not being able to save their daughter's life.

Jeb Bush has gone above and beyond to save Terri's life. I hate reading all of the insults here against him. He stepped in earlier and did what he could. I have no doubt he exhausted every legal avenue available to him also. Do you think a Democrat governor would have done as much to save Terri? She would have been dead a long time ago. This man is a governor and must abide by our laws. Thank you Jeb.

Thank you Congressmen and Senators for going above and beyond to help Terri. You were so brave to do what you did. I hope there will not be a backlash against you for trying to save Terri from an "unjust" justice system.

Randall Terry, please shut up. You do not speak for me and you look like an idiot. Please quit insulting people who have gone out of their way to help Terri. Everyone did what they could and we should be grateful and thankful to them. Jeb Bush, Congress, the Senate and our President could have easily ignored this case, but they didn't. Do you think a "President Kerry" would have done as much? We have elected conservative politicians and they have NOT let us down. They acted and did everything legally in their power to save Terri.

[jpsb]

You should read 93, Jim explains things quite nicely.

[Cboldt]

Remember, Terri would have been dead several years ago if it weren't for Jeb Bush.

And she'd have been denied food and water to the point of death years before that if she'd had a living will in the model form contained in Florida statutes.