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In a Polarizing Case, Jeb Bush Cements His Political Stature
The New York Times ^ | March 25, 2005 | ADAM NAGOURNEY

Posted on 03/24/2005 10:10:41 PM PST by Former Military Chick

WASHINGTON, March 24 - Gov. Jeb Bush's last-minute intervention in the case of Terri Schiavo, even after the president had ended his own effort to keep her alive, may have so far failed in a legal sense, but it has cemented the religious and social conservative credentials of a man whose political pedigree is huge and whose political future remains a subject of intense speculation.

On one level, the Florida governor's emergence as the most prominent politician still fighting, despite a string of court and legislative defeats, to have a feeding tube reinserted in Ms. Schiavo was very much in keeping with someone who has repeatedly declared a deep religious faith.

Several associates noted that he had been devoutly religious longer than President Bush, and even critics said his efforts - prodding the Florida Legislature and the courts and defying much of the electorate - were rooted in a deep-seated opposition to abortion and euthanasia rather than in political positioning.

Yet inevitably, the events of recent days have fed the mystique of Mr. Bush as a reluctant inheritor of perhaps America's most famous dynasty since the Adams family two centuries ago.

He has assumed a very high profile in this polarizing case just as Republicans are contemplating the void that will be left when President Bush begins his walk off the stage in two years or so. At a time when many of the most frequently mentioned possibilities to lead the party are moderates like John McCain and Rudolph W. Giuliani, the governor now certainly has a place, if he wants it, as a prime contender in what is shaping up as a fight to represent a conservative wing that has proved increasingly dominant.

"He has strongly identified himself with the Christian conservative movement," said Matthew Corrigan, a political science professor at the University of North Florida. "If the Republican Party is looking for someone with good ties with the Christian conservative movement, he is the one who is going to have them."

Mr. Bush is barred by term limits from seeking a third term in 2006, and associates say they cannot imagine his running for a third term even if he were permitted to do so. Further, he has said he will not run for the presidency in 2008, an assertion that all but a few associates say they accept, though some Republicans think he may well run in 2012 or 2016.

"He's got no - as far as I know, and I really believe him - he's got no future political ambitions," said Cory Tilley, a longtime adviser. "And even if he did, he would be doing exactly what he is doing now. This is very clearly an issue that strikes at his core beliefs."

Susan McManus, a political science professor at the University of South Florida, said: "He is a very ideologically consistent person. He made no bones about that from the first day he ran for office. Those of us who watch him think this is Jeb, and how he truly believes and what he truly believes, and this may be one of those instances where he's putting politics aside."

Still, several Republicans said that while Mr. Bush might be ignoring any political calculations in a case that has etched grief on his face, it would be foolish to underestimate the political skills of someone who has managed to win two elections to lead one of the nation's most divided states. His decision to continue the Schiavo battle on his own, within hours after the White House had effectively withdrawn, followed a letter in which Bill Frist, the Senate Republican leader, urged that he make sure the Florida Legislature acted "expeditiously on Terri's behalf."

Dr. Frist is arguably the other most prominent Republican seeking to inherit the president's mantle as leader of the party's conservative wing. But Mike Murphy, a close adviser to the governor, disputes the notion of any rivalry between the two men, especially in regard to the Schiavo case.

"I don't think it's a competition at all: Jeb's the guy on the spot," Mr. Murphy said. "He's the governor of the state."

Some Democrats were skeptical, however.

"This is less about Terri Schiavo and more about shoring up the Republican base, and that's a shame," said Scott Maddox, who is departing as chairman of the Florida Democratic Party and is a potential candidate for governor. "Politics has to be in play here."

At times this week, it almost seemed as if the Bush brothers were working in tandem; the governor's decision to re-enter the case once the White House had dropped it in the face of repeated judicial rebuffs may have saved the president criticism from the right. (Paradoxically, the governor himself was pummeled Thursday by some conservative activists, who demanded that he have state authorities physically seize custody of Ms. Schiavo and reinsert the tube.)

That would not be the first time the governor has come to the aid of his brother. But it is also not the first time he has intervened in the Schiavo case. In 2003, after a court ordered the tube removed, he and the Legislature enacted a law that empowered him to order it reinserted. That measure was later overturned in another judicial decision.

"Jeb Bush is not doing this for political reasons, in my opinion," said Jim Kane, chief pollster for Florida Voter, a nonpartisan polling organization. "Jeb Bush is smart enough to know that he is not going to gain anything from this, and he's probably going to lose something."

Pressing the issue could prove particularly problematic in a state like Florida, with a heavy population of elderly voters, who analysts say are more likely to recoil at government intervention in such a case.

In any event, some of Mr. Bush's associates suggest that for all the intensity stirred by the Schiavo case now, it will ultimately fade.

"Issues have a way of coming and going," Mr. Tilley said. "This one is a very deep one. But it seems like other ones always come up, especially here in Florida."


TOPICS: US: Florida
KEYWORDS: jebbush; jebwasheshishands; pontiuspilate; praisefromtheleft; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; washinghishands
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Then impeach Jeb.

Some people would rather cut off their nose,than see what's what. *sigh*

201 posted on 03/25/2005 12:15:15 AM PST by nopardons
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To: MHGinTN
I've been of the opinion that Congress ought to send Federal Marshals to visit Greer with a contempt of Congress issuing, at the very least, for his actually taking action to kill the subpoenaed witness! Friday morning would be a good time to arrest Greer, say 6AM, while simultaneously taking protective custody of Terri and whisking her to a hospital for IV's and reinsertion of the food port. But then I fancy myself to be a storyteller/novelist ...

I'm with you here! (and I am a professional writer ;o)

202 posted on 03/25/2005 12:16:04 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7
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203 posted on 03/25/2005 12:16:35 AM PST by jwpjr
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To: faithincowboys

And there isn't a damned thing any of us can do about those jurist.


204 posted on 03/25/2005 12:16:38 AM PST by nopardons
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
If the police, part of the executive branch, can be ordered around by a judge, ...

local police are part of the executive branch???

205 posted on 03/25/2005 12:17:15 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7
he can order the STATE police - not the local. and the local police who surround the hospice have been given orders by Greer no to let the state police on the grounds.

Short of a shoot out - ???


Judges do not own the local police either. The local police are run by the city or county executive. And the governor certainly has power to call them into the service of the state just like the President can federalize the state militia.
206 posted on 03/25/2005 12:17:15 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

tran = train



hey, it's late!


207 posted on 03/25/2005 12:17:46 AM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Watch out for bears, to them you are spaghetti dinner)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

right with ya - I got a big tar brush too


208 posted on 03/25/2005 12:18:40 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7
local police are part of the executive branch???

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! The county or city executive!

God! What happened to education in this country?!
209 posted on 03/25/2005 12:21:02 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: GSWarrior

re: Clinton was always showing up at black churches

Carrying that huge Bible. What a showman!


210 posted on 03/25/2005 12:21:48 AM PST by jwpjr
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To: maine-iac7

i brought the matches.


211 posted on 03/25/2005 12:23:26 AM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Watch out for bears, to them you are spaghetti dinner)
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To: Nick Danger
Ordering an executive-branch official to not enforce the law was not smart thing for a judge to have done.

But judges do it all the time. They view themselves as the moderators of the law.

212 posted on 03/25/2005 12:24:11 AM PST by The Red Zone (Florida: the sun-shame state.)
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To: jwpjr
the pop-up problem - I have a good virus protection program and both Google (home page) and Yahoo give me pretty good pop-up blockers. for example, since I got my PC worked on and updated by my son three months ago - google has blocked over 2,500 pop-ups. Makes life a lot easier :o)
213 posted on 03/25/2005 12:25:05 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: The Red Zone
I would gladly take a yes from Whittemore

So would I. So would Jeb.


214 posted on 03/25/2005 12:26:42 AM PST by Nick Danger (You can stick a fork in the Mullahs -- they're done.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
police are part of the judical branch, they enforce laws that judges rule on. follow the tran of logic. you get arrested by the police, then you go before a judge. Police arrest, Judges sentence.

POLICE ARE EXECUTIVE BRANCH!

They are run by the governor, the mayor, the county executive, whatever. Judges have a few process servers and that is all.
215 posted on 03/25/2005 12:26:48 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

What happens when police, sworn to uphold the law, are given contradictory orders about the law by the judicial and executive branches. A melee?


216 posted on 03/25/2005 12:28:18 AM PST by The Red Zone (Florida: the sun-shame state.)
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To: MHGinTN
Jeb should have presented himself, in person, to the person in charge of the police at the hospice and shown him/her a copy of the statue, then informed him/her politely, but firmly, that he is obligated to act on the information provided by DCF. He should have gone alone, with no signs of state police or other law enforcement. The element of surprise would have likely given him a slight edge. As soon as he had made the presentation an ambulance should have come around the corner, ready to transport Terri without delay. With no forewarning I suspect the law enforcement personnel on the scene would have raised no objection.
217 posted on 03/25/2005 12:29:31 AM PST by jwpjr
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
People think they're watching The West Wing, and anyone in power can do anything they imagine.

I've been critical of Jeb not doing more. However, were he to have Terri rescued in some dramatic fashion he would then be expected to do the same for the next Terri Schiavo out ther..and again and again.

Something other than the unilaterial action of a governor is needed here.

218 posted on 03/25/2005 12:31:52 AM PST by The Duke
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To: The Red Zone

Obviously everybody talks and sorts it out.
But legally the police's superior is the executive and that is who they obey, not the judge.
If the executive is wrong then it is for the legislature to sort it out.


219 posted on 03/25/2005 12:32:45 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

re: what did the judge tell him?

To butt out, that he did not have the authority to enforce the statue. In essence that he (Judge Greer) was in charge of Terri and his power trumped anything granted the governor by the constitution.


220 posted on 03/25/2005 12:32:49 AM PST by jwpjr
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