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Schindlers' Options Dwindle to Hearing Tonight with Federal Judge (Motion DENIED)
AP ^ | March 24, 2005

Posted on 03/24/2005 4:45:17 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

A federal court hearing has started in one of the last effort attempts by Terri Schiavo's parents to restore their daughter's feeding tube.

But the judge already has turned down the parents once. Bob and Mary Schindler are asking for an emergency order to reinsert the feeding tube in the brain-damaged woman.

The hearing in Tampa is before U.S. District Judge James Whittemore. He turned the Schindlers down once, as did a federal appeals court and the Supreme Court. A state judge, a state appeals court and the Florida Supreme Court also have all come down on the side of the husband, who wants to let his wife die after 15 years in what some doctors call a vegetative state.

The latest defeat for the Schindlers was today when a state judge said he won't go along with Governor Jeb Bush's request to order the feeding tube reinserted. The governor had said that new allegations of abuse of Terri Schiavo need to be investigated. The governor also tried to challenged the diagnosis that Terri Schiavo is in a persistent vegetative state.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; righttolife; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; whittemore
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To: al baby
"Second question If i were to go to Terri's room and shot her would i be charged in her death?

Second question is very Hypothetical"

Of course you would.

THEN given 3 meals a day and drink.

AND if you got the death penalty

YOU would have the ACLU represent you.

AND if you were executed it would

be without "cruel and unusual" means.

BUT unfortunately you would have more rights than Terri.
61 posted on 03/24/2005 5:15:19 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (1st it's Terri Then it's ..... Then it's those "complain" on the internet. Then it's YOU!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
I may be wrong because I only heard the tail end of it...but I believe the Florida Department of Child Protective Services has taken custody of Terri Schiavo.

I say this because the last line of the report on CNN radio at the top of the 8 o'clock hour was...
"Florida judge George Greer could order sheriff's deputies to go and take back custody of the woman."

Can anyone confirm this?

62 posted on 03/24/2005 5:15:34 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Power is nothing without control.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

What's anyone's thought that this hearing is still going on? I can only take that as the tinest bit positive...


63 posted on 03/24/2005 5:15:42 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: SeaBiscuit

And this WILL affect the troops.

Because people will want their sons and daughters home and they will ask:

"Why should my son/daughter go to other shores and get killed to keep a woman from being beaten or headed or raped, and we can't save one woman here?"

TRUST ME ON THIS ONE. IT WILL HAPPEN.


64 posted on 03/24/2005 5:16:22 PM PST by freecopper01
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To: Hand em their arse

"Ahh, you wussed out on that one, I figured you had another paragraph and a half with that one.... Come on, look at the ammo MJ gives ya... :^)"

LOL! I will leave that to the imagination. :)

Since this is a family forum and such. ;)

(I had to move my reply to this thread because the other one is locked).


65 posted on 03/24/2005 5:17:00 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Spunky

I just wish they had a top notch lawyer and had time to work up a good case. This is all being done fly-by-night because of the time restraints. Then that case is ignored because it was not effective.


66 posted on 03/24/2005 5:17:18 PM PST by ClancyJ (Sometimes we're a think tank, and sometimes we're just a tank ! - SlowBoat 407)
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To: ClancyJ
Just what does Gov. Bush do with Terri after he rescues her?

I see him havingtwo winning moves.

1) Have her taken to an air force base hospital
2) Have her taken to a Catholic run hospital.

In the 1st case they will be on Federal land nd out of state jurisdiction.

In the 2nd she would be given sancuary.

67 posted on 03/24/2005 5:17:47 PM PST by jeffo
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To: tutstar
They have no more power than you or I or a person walking down the street to say we have the right to take Terri Schiavo

I found that an odd statement coming from Felos. He appears to have imprisoned her with the aid of the Pinellas Park police and one county judge, and is currently torturing her to death in his impromptu prison.

Odd that he would claim that no one has the right to "take" her. He appears to have done so already.

68 posted on 03/24/2005 5:17:54 PM PST by Regulator
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To: AZ_Cowboy

Help me, on this.

I thought they already did their 'hit' on Terri.

They might have enjoyed it so much they'll want seconds??


69 posted on 03/24/2005 5:18:02 PM PST by freecopper01
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To: Regulator

As all low-yers, he is adept at making technically true statements that are misleading.


70 posted on 03/24/2005 5:19:12 PM PST by The Red Zone (Florida: the sun-shame state.)
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To: savedbygrace

Yes, I do see what you mean.


71 posted on 03/24/2005 5:19:17 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: freecopper01

Don't know if this is true but someone just posted that terri has been taken in by the DCF!!!

God let this be true!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1369363/posts?page=3212#3212


72 posted on 03/24/2005 5:19:30 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
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To: Dante3

Step back.

Inhale deeply.

Original Sin.

Death/murder/cover-up.

Same thing, different place.


73 posted on 03/24/2005 5:19:33 PM PST by freecopper01
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To: jeffo

Gee - what a great idea. Hope you are in government.


74 posted on 03/24/2005 5:19:41 PM PST by ClancyJ (Sometimes we're a think tank, and sometimes we're just a tank ! - SlowBoat 407)
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To: jbarkley

I am a little more hopeful because this motion is being argued by lawyers for DCF,Destro for example.
But they are facing the big guns of the ACLU. I should have known they were in on it. Now I feel a little more sympathy for Gibbs. He was overpowered.


75 posted on 03/24/2005 5:19:54 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: jeffo

if only the Pope had offered her sanctuary.


76 posted on 03/24/2005 5:19:55 PM PST by avital2
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To: ClancyJ
Gee - what a great idea. Hope you are in government.

Alas no, but lets hope that Jeb and his people are at least as smart as I am. :-)

77 posted on 03/24/2005 5:20:39 PM PST by jeffo
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To: jbarkley

"but the pessimist in me thinks he's dragging his feet hoping Terri will die before he has to issue a ruling."

I have got to say, this is the feeling I've been having now for seven days, from all the judges involved.

The politicians seem to have been slightly better. GW is the best but his job was the easiest (waking up at 1 a.m in his pj's to sign a bill).

But seriously, all through the court levels, I mean at any point, if any judge thought they would rule in Terri's favor they could have put at least an IV hydration tube in her.

They never did, so... that was always a bad sign. And this court is the same one that first heard the appeal this week (please someone correct me if I'm wrong) so I am not hopeful. :(


78 posted on 03/24/2005 5:21:13 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Cboldt
I was going to post this on the other thread until it got locked.

Re. your comment:
Actually, it is spot on relevant, and it is not hypothetical at all. If Terri had an advance directive of the model florida form, this would have come off without so much as a trial.

I don't understand. What could Terri have put in a will?

"I hereby declare that if I should become brain-damaged and unable to care for myself yet still be able to breathe on my own, laugh, and speak; and if therapy and the company of my family were withheld from me by my husband; and if a plethora of doctors had differing opinions on my state of conciousness and ability to feel pain and emotion; then, henceforth, it is my will that sustenance (both liquid and solid) be withheld from me over a period of several days such that once dehydration and starvation have run their course, I shall be cremated posthaste."

?

79 posted on 03/24/2005 5:21:26 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: MadIvan
Wow, I thought it would be all over everywhere, I'm surprised.
80 posted on 03/24/2005 5:22:45 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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