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To: mjtobias

"Christian laws supersede man-made laws.
"

Not in this country, they don't.


904 posted on 03/24/2005 11:21:16 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
Not in this country, they don't.

They do in every country. But we don't escape the ramifications of breaking men's laws.

908 posted on 03/24/2005 11:22:14 AM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: MineralMan
I already posted this once but you must have missed it:

from Probe Ministries

Francis Schaeffer said in the Christian Manifesto that if there is never a case in which a Christian would practice civil disobedience, then the state has become Lord. He said, One either confesses that God is the final authority, or one confesses that Caesar is Lord. The Bible clearly teaches that there are times when a believer must disobey civil law so that he or she can obey God's higher law.

In the Old Testament there are a number of prominent examples of civil disobedience. In Exodus 1 and 2, when Pharaoh commanded the Hebrew midwives to kill all male Hebrew babies, they lied to Pharaoh and did not carry out his command.

The book of Daniel has a number of instructive examples. In Daniel 3, for example, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego refused to bow down to the golden image and were cast into the fiery furnace.

In Daniel 6 the commissioners and satraps had King Darius make a decree that no one could make a petition to any god or man for thirty days. Daniel nevertheless continued to pray to God three times a day and was cast into the lion's den.

The most dramatic example of civil disobedience in the New Testament can be found in Acts 4 and 5. When Peter and John were commanded not to preach the gospel, their response was, "We must obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29).

Notice that in each of these examples there are at least two common elements. First, there was a direct, specific conflict between God's law and man's law....
Second, in choosing to obey God's higher law, believers paid the normal consequence for disobedience.

927 posted on 03/24/2005 11:24:02 AM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: MineralMan

Thanks. As a fellow atheist (or agnostic, depending on my crankiness quotient) I like seeing people reminded of that. I'm also for saving this woman from being murdered, but it seems that doesn't cut it with some once they find out it's for moral and ethical and not religious reasons. ;)


939 posted on 03/24/2005 11:25:45 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (The Schiavo case-- the first assisted suicide based on hearsay)
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To: MineralMan

They do for Christians.


944 posted on 03/24/2005 11:26:32 AM PST by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: All

We are a nation of Checks and Balances...one branch over rides the other....BUT in this case The Executive and Legislative Branch are shouting Save Her!! Is there nothing in our constitution that gives a 2 out of 3 rule?
It seems to me out Justice System needs some major re-modeling.

God Bless Terri Schaivo


953 posted on 03/24/2005 11:27:39 AM PST by El_Doctor ( Éireann go Brách)
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To: MineralMan
Christian laws supersede man-made laws.

This properly could have been stated better. I believe he means Terri Schiavo's inherent right to life trumps the codified legal nonsense that has been used to dress up this travesty.

966 posted on 03/24/2005 11:30:08 AM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: MineralMan

This constant drumbeat about living wills is beginning to sound an awful lot like blaming the victim. Terri, a lovely 26 year old woman, didn't write down the words "feed me". This ommission has now been effectively turned into a crime meriting her starvation. But then, maybe that's just another rationalization people make for themselves as they cheer her murder.


984 posted on 03/24/2005 11:32:49 AM PST by workerbee
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To: MineralMan

Christian laws are not restricted to written laws. There is the will of the people, hitherto safe in its box. It will, eventually, and hopefully soon, be let loose of its constraints to impose itself upon its foes.

On we go an invisible army, yet an invincible one!


1,091 posted on 03/24/2005 11:54:29 AM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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