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Bush decries border project
Washington Times ^ | March 24, 2005 | James G. Lakely

Posted on 03/24/2005 7:52:05 AM PST by mikemikemikecubed

Edited on 03/24/2005 5:24:25 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

WACO, Texas -- President Bush yesterday said he opposes a civilian project to monitor illegal aliens crossing the border, characterizing them as "vigilantes." He said he would pressure Congress to further loosen immigration law. More than 1,000 people -- including 30 pilots and their private planes -- have volunteered for the Minuteman Project, beginning next month along the Arizona-Mexico border. Civilians will monitor the movement of illegal aliens for the month of April and report them to the Border Patrol. Mr. Bush said after yesterday's continental summit, with Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin at Baylor University, that he finds such actions unacceptable. "I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America," Mr. Bush said at a joint press conference. "I'm for enforcing the law in a rational way." The Minuteman Project was born out of a long-held perception among many residents that more Border Patrol agents are needed to handle the flow of illegal immigrants. Mr. Bush was criticized by both Republicans and Democrats earlier this month for failing to add 2,000 agents to the Border Patrol, as set out in the intelligence overhaul legislation he signed in December. The president's 2006 budget allows enough money to add only 210 agents for the U.S. borders with Canada and Mexico. Mr. Bush said he will "continue to push for reasonable, common-sense immigration policy." He has proposed legislation to grant guest-worker status to millions of illegal aliens already in the United States. The legislation has attracted scant support in Congress, where it is widely regarded as another amnesty that will encourage even more illegal immigration.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderpatrol; bordersecurity; bush; bush43; bushdoctrineunfold; buttboyjorgearbusto; donutwatch; fox; gop; govwatch; immigration; jamesglakely; minutemanproject; paragraphsrfriends; rnc
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To: FastCoyote

That was their mistake, coming here legally. You leave a paper trail. I've not heard about this story though.


101 posted on 03/24/2005 8:37:14 AM PST by cyborg (Sudanese refugee,"Mr.Schiavo I disagree with your opinion about not feeling pain when you starve.")
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To: nikola
So now the border patrol will be arresting our citizens who also patrolling the border? Is it now a crime?
102 posted on 03/24/2005 8:37:19 AM PST by Sybeck1 (We were hoodwinked, at least with Kerry, the Republicans would've stood for something!)
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To: mdittmar

Bush is not stupid enough to name them specifically, if he did that there would be a major backlash from the public. Why, because the majority of the public are for stopping illegals from entering the country. That is why they call monitoring the border "hunting" and illegals "migrant people". Migrant people are senior citizens that live in the north during the summer and in the south during the winter.

Yes it was a hit piece, directed towards those that attempt the stem the tide of illegals.


103 posted on 03/24/2005 8:38:00 AM PST by looscnnn ("Olestra (Olean) applications causes memory leaks" PC Confusious)
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To: Travis McGee


Our borders should have been sealed on 9/12.
That was the perfect time.
Now there's no time to waste,
but I hold NO hope of ever
seeing them sealed.



104 posted on 03/24/2005 8:38:34 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: Little Ray
Of course, Kerry didn't just want to amnest illegals, he wanted to make 'em citizens...

Citzens? They don't need no stiiiiinking citizenship.

They get better treatment as illegals ... at least in Mexifornia.

Remind me to tell you the story of when an American acquaintance of mine went to a free clinic in the WestLake District of LA, but was turn away because "You're a citizen, you can pay".

105 posted on 03/24/2005 8:39:15 AM PST by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: mikemikemikecubed

I am sincerely dissapointed in Mr Bush on this one, unless he knows something I don't (Which is entirely possible).

The irritating part is calling them vigilantes. They are merely helping our government uphold the laws on the books. They are not lynching or meeting out justice in any way.

Has Bush never heard of the phrase "citizens arrest?"


106 posted on 03/24/2005 8:39:50 AM PST by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: spodefly

Just look at the way the Prez is looking at Vicente, is that adulation, or what?

What the h*ll happened to Fox's lips.........sour grapes for dessert???


107 posted on 03/24/2005 8:40:13 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Hillary Rodhamclinton is phonier than a three dollar bill clinton.)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
GWB will be impeached in record time.

I personally think proceedings should begin NOW. For all his compassion and kisbut to Mexico, I never thought he'd interpret the citizens Right to Protest and assemble on American soil as vigilantes.

Bush has crossed the line. Our Government has become tyrannical.
108 posted on 03/24/2005 8:40:17 AM PST by hushpad (The Slippery Slope? The Judiciary passed it a few miles back.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
I was referring to the fact that he called the minutemen, "vigilantes". That he would refer to them in that way is what I am talking about.

Yeah, it is pretty insane. About as insane as amnesty.

No arguement on either point.

109 posted on 03/24/2005 8:40:22 AM PST by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: mikeus_maximus

>>"I'm for enforcing the law in a rational way."

THEN DO IT!<<



I will add that the minuteman project IS rational.


110 posted on 03/24/2005 8:41:03 AM PST by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: A. Pole
Yes, all that, plus they think they will turn into the next tier of citizens, to prop up social security 30 years from now.

It's true. Dubya makes absolutely no demands that Mexico clean-up its own act to provide economic opportunities for its own citizenry. Instead, his trade, economic and immigration policies are all designed to import banana republic style plutocracy to our own nation.

Homeland security "concerns" are a joke.

111 posted on 03/24/2005 8:41:31 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: hushpad

When the impeachment happens, I won't say a word in protest. I just hope VP Cheney isn't cut from the same cloth as GWB.


112 posted on 03/24/2005 8:42:08 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: onyx

I agree with you. I really do think the President is wrong on this and putting the interests of big business ahead of this country.


113 posted on 03/24/2005 8:43:38 AM PST by cyborg (Sudanese refugee,"Mr.Schiavo I disagree with your opinion about not feeling pain when you starve.")
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To: mikemikemikecubed

Ask your Senator to oppose any effort to attach the AgJOBS amnesty to the Iraq supplemental spending bill

http://www.numbersusa.com/

THIS IS AN URGENT FAX REQUEST TO OPPOSE THE EFFORT TO ATTACH THE AGJOBS AMNESTY TO THE IRAQ SUPPLEMENTAL SPENDING BILL.

Our Capitol Hill team has learned that Senator Larry Craig (R-ID), the sponsor of the AgJOBS amnesty, is going to attempt to attach the massive illegal alien amnesty to the Iraq supplemental spending bill when the Senate returns from recess in early April.

This, of course, is an outrageous effort to attach an amnesty for illegal aliens to counterterorrism legislation. However, it is a significant threat because if Sen. Craig is successful in attaching the amnesty to the Iraq supplemental spending bill, it will very likely pass since most Senators will have a hard time voting against the Iraq supplemental spending bill.

Send this fax to your Senator asking them to oppose any effort to attach the AgJOBS amnesty to the Iraq supplemental spending bill.

BACKGROUND:

The AgJOBS agricultural guestworker-amnesty bill, S. 359, was introduced on February 10, 2005. This bill will reward thousands of illegal aliens with amnesty. Of the 1.2 million illegal aliens currently working in agriculture, an estimated 860,000, plus their spouses and children could have qualified for this amnesty, so the total could have reached three million or more.

A January 23rd Copley News Service article detailing the decreased need for agricultural workers in the raisin industry shows that S. 359, the AgJOBS amnesty bill introduced once again in the 109th congress by Senator Larry Craig (R-ID) is attempting to solve a problem that simply doesn't exist.

The article reports that, due to increased mechanization in the raisin industry, fewer workers are needed to harvest raisins. Where 50 workers were once needed, now only five are needed. The article goes on to report that, "[California] State officials believe two or three migrants are currently competing for each of California's 400,000 to 500,000 seasonal farm jobs. If machines pick the raisins, agricultural experts say, labor demand will drop to a tenth of the 40,000 to 50,000 workers typically hired today." You can read the full article here: http://www.numbersusa.com/actionbuffet/?action=showtext&ID=2672.

A similar situation has occurred in Florida where orange growers are increasingly relying on mechanization to help harvest oranges. The article provides further evidence that America does NOT have an agricultural worker shortage. Legal farmworkers can't find enough work to do and mechanization is eliminating a lot of jobs.


114 posted on 03/24/2005 8:44:23 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: sarasota

>>Can someone please explain Bush's apparent lack of logic on border control?<<

Well, here is a theory, but I don't like it: He knows something we don't. And I mean something big. Put on your tinfoil and start speculating. Think of it as a brainstorming session. That is, in the first pass, no idea is too whacky.

Possibilities:
1. Some economists are correct and our economy is about to implode, so we need the cheap labor to stave off the invevitable.
2. Blackmail is involved.
3. ______________________________

When someone acts this far out of character, there is something going on behind the scenes.


115 posted on 03/24/2005 8:44:36 AM PST by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
When the impeachment happens, I won't say a word in protest.

I'd just like to see a Congress and a Senate with some spine enact tough laws to deal with this problem with or without Buah's support instead of playing politics all the time.

116 posted on 03/24/2005 8:44:40 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: mikemikemikecubed
I'm with him on everything else, but this is a constant thorn that he keeps irritating. Keep on Minutemen!
117 posted on 03/24/2005 8:45:30 AM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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To: nikola
"I will not vote Republican in the next election. I'll sit it out."

Bush, thank goodness, will NOT be running in '08. If you want border security, vote for your state represenatives who are known to stand for securing our nation, borders first.

118 posted on 03/24/2005 8:45:45 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: mdittmar
Bush knew exactly who he was talking about. It's been the headline grabber in Mexico ever since it was announced.Unless of course you really are suggesting that Bush is that stupid. Reminds me of Lawyer double speak. But just in case, here is a very good example.

Let's say down the road from where you live there is a neighborhood watch program, and just last week they announced they would be patroling the neighborhood in greater numbers because crime has gotten way out of hand and the Police just don't seem to be doing anything.

If you call the 911 line you might get a response in a few hours.Now lets also say that the (supposed) leader of this said gang invited you over to see what could be done to stop or slow down the violence.

And you were asked by someone who is present at this Parlay, "So what do you think of the Hunters in the neighborhood looking for gang members"? Are you going to tell me that you would not assume he was talking about the neighborhood watch? Give me a break, Bush knew what the question meant.

119 posted on 03/24/2005 8:46:01 AM PST by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: RobRoy

"I am sincerely dissapointed in Mr Bush on this one, unless he knows something I don't (Which is entirely possible)."


I suspect its the chilling demographic crisis America is going to face, as the baby boomers retire.

From reading what Bush has said, he clearly wants to increase legal immigration, and get better control of the border. But it seems they can't get the increased legal immigration through congress right now.

It puts him in a tough position in fairness I believe.


120 posted on 03/24/2005 8:46:04 AM PST by ran15
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