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Judge admits mistake, refuses to reverse findings on Terri Schiavo
Tampa Bay's Channel 10 News ^ | March 23 2005 | Dave Bohman

Posted on 03/23/2005 8:34:30 PM PST by cabalofdom

Clearwater, Florida - Judge George Greer admits there was an error in fact in the 2000 trial that established Terri Schiavo;s "right to die."

When a family friend claimed a 19-year-old Terri was upset that right to die icon Karen Ann Quinlan's parents removed her from life support, the Judge discounted the testimony, reportedly because the Judge said Quinlan died in 1976.

Quinlan was taken off life support in 1976, but died in 1985. A technical error, yes. But Wednesday afternoon, Judge Greer ruled it was not enough to affect the outcome of the 2000 lawsuit that held Terri would not want to be kept alive with severe brain damage.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cary; impeachgreer; judgegreer; judicialmurder; murder; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: McGavin999
Oh, just a tiny little mistake that is going to cost a life, what does he care?

That's easy, FRiend. The esteemed Judge thinks about starving and dehydrating Terri for about 10 seconds, then he gets distracted by his waiter, after ordering his taxpayer subsidised meal, when the waiter asks if he wants white or red wine with his gourmet dinner, and if he would like house icewater, or a bottle of Evian with his meal.

Sick.

121 posted on 03/23/2005 9:38:02 PM PST by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: snarkytart

Lucky? Hah! The floriduh judiciary rubber stamped his errors repeatedly, rather than grant Terri true Justice. Now we have clonton appointees rubber stamping the nasty mistakes and refusing to do the de novo review, for no better reason than the Congress requested it directly and the Judicial Oligarchy will not allow Congress to usurp their Emperor status.


122 posted on 03/23/2005 9:38:17 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: cabalofdom
When a family friend claimed a 19-year-old Terri was upset that right to die icon Karen Ann Quinlan's parents removed her from life support,

This should be enough to PROVE that Terri would NOT have wanted to be removed from something that was sustaining her life, like FOOD!

123 posted on 03/23/2005 9:39:09 PM PST by Netizen (USA - Land of the free, home of the brave, where the handicapped are legally starved and dehydrated!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
This judge should be disbarred.

And then charged with contempt of congress, attempted murder, elder abuse, and felonious mopery.

Once convicted put in the general population.
124 posted on 03/23/2005 9:39:23 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: The Red Zone

If she dies, which I pray she does not, Gov. Bush needs to make sure ALL evidence is seized and an investigation started.


125 posted on 03/23/2005 9:39:24 PM PST by Deepest South
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To: GaltMeister

"More than anything, we need to get rational thought, and rational people back in our leadership, in all three branches of governmment."

And with guts.


126 posted on 03/23/2005 9:39:28 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
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To: jdhljc169

It’s bad enough that Right-To-Die advocates are using Terri’s situation to encourage the rest of us to sign advance directives. But their exploitation of her does not stop there. Terri Schiavo is surrounded by major players in the Right-To-Die movement. Michael Schiavo chose well when he hired George Felos as his attorney and Dr. Ronald Cranford as an expert neurologist. There are frightening links between them and others involved with Terri. See if you can follow this convoluted web of connections among the people surrounding Terri Schiavo.

Dr. Ronald Cranford was a member of the board of the former Euthanasia Society of America, which eventually merged with Partnership for Caring. Partnership for Caring lists Mary Labyak as a current member of their Board of Directors; she is also the CEO of the hospice where Terri Schiavo lives. Both George Felos and Barbara Sheen Todd have served on the Board of Directors for that same hospice; Mr. Felos was in fact the Chairman of the Board until Terri Schiavo was moved there. Mrs. Todd serves as a Pinellas County commissioner. Judge George Greer served with her for eight years; it is he who has ordered Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube removed. He also appointed a supposedly "neutral" neurologist, Dr. Peter Bambakidis of Ohio, to break the tie between doctors who disagreed about Terri’s diagnosis. Dr. Bambakidis had never before testified in a case like Terri’s, but his brother and George Felos have both served as officers in the American Hellenic Education Progressive Association.

So in a case where clean hands and independence ought to be mandatory, professional associations abound. No disabled person could be well served by these supposedly coincidental connections. How can people with so many affiliations be allowed to decide the death of Terri Schiavo?

Many of these individuals are leading activists in the Right-To-Die movement. They are exploiting Terri Schiavo in hopes of advancing their agenda. If Michael Schiavo and George Felos succeed in starving Terri to death, a legal precedent will have been set that will give guardians far greater leeway to order the starvation and dehydration of their wards. It is instructive to review the activities of the key players trying to kill Terri Schiavo.

Dr. Cranford has been an instrumental force in redefining the determination of death. Death was once defined as the time when the heart permanently stopped beating. Through Dr. Cranford’s activism, it was changed to coincide with the cessation of brain waves. The motivation for this redefinition was so that human organs would survive the death of the patient and be available for transplant. When writing in 1982, Dr. Cranford was highly critical of pro-lifers in general and Catholics in particular as he presented his arguments for this redefinition. His critics? They thought his new criteria might lead to the eventual acceptance of euthanasia. History has proven his critics to be right. Interestingly enough, Dr. Cranford’s published definition of the Persistent Vegetative State differs substantially from Florida law. Court transcripts show that Judge George Greer used Dr. Cranford’s definition in assessing Terri, rather than Florida’s stricter definition.

George Felos is proud to be a "crusader" in the Right-To-Die movement. In his book Litigation as Spiritual Practice (Blue Dolphin Publishing, 2002), he describes his religious beliefs and spiritual practices. These include engaging in a form of telepathy which he calls "soul-speak" to discern the wishes of comatose patients. Using the power of the mind, he believes we are all capable of creating even an automobile for ourselves "out of the ether." While on a commercial plane flight, he once wondered how it would feel to die; he claims his thoughts caused the plane to descend towards a crash, and that God audibly admonished him afterward. His book also explains the motivation of the Right-To-Die movement: its adherents know "that keeping one alive against his wishes — artificially perpetuating the body once the spirit is ready to depart — is a defilement of life’s final rite of passage." This explains his obvious distress when he declared Terri Schiavo was "abducted from her deathbed and her death process" by the actions of Florida’s governor. Distressed or not, it is wrong for him to use the legal system to force his fanatical religious views on Terri, who is Roman Catholic.

Partnership in Caring (linked to both Dr. Cranford and Mary Labyak) is an organization wedded to the Right-To-Die movement. Their website carries a message about the Terri Schiavo case without ever mentioning that Mary Labyak’s hospice is Terri’s home. What does Partnership for Caring say about the Schiavo case? The controversy in her case stems from a misunderstanding of "evolving terms." Did you get that? The Right-To-Die movement is freely admitting that medical terminology can "evolve" and cause the "misunderstanding" plaguing Terri’s family. And their suggestion for avoiding this? Write a Living Will so that your family will not have the same conflicts Terri’s did. They know, even if you don’t, that the literature you find will guide you toward allowing the medical profession to decide when you should die.

http://tinyurl.com/4u9fd


127 posted on 03/23/2005 9:41:25 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Escow

he is less then human I can only believe he caused Terri Schaivos condition. Tell me why He is worthy of protection?


128 posted on 03/23/2005 9:43:21 PM PST by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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To: SeaBiscuit
You have to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything.
129 posted on 03/23/2005 9:43:43 PM PST by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: kcvl
Partnership in Caring (linked to both Dr. Cranford and Mary Labyak

Partnership in Scaring is more like it. Halloween is early this year.

130 posted on 03/23/2005 9:46:20 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: kcvl
Intended Death: The Ethics of Assisted Suicide

That would be like Dr. Kevorkian, right? The only difference being that Kevorkian's clients are terminal and contact him, instead of having death forced upon them like Terri.

131 posted on 03/23/2005 9:46:40 PM PST by Netizen (USA - Land of the free, home of the brave, where the handicapped are legally starved and dehydrated!)
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To: Jeff Head

A judge has blocked DCF from doing that today.


132 posted on 03/23/2005 9:47:22 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: cabalofdom; All

Only Governor Bush can save Terri at this time.

CONTACT JEB BUSH HERE:

E-mail: jeb.bush@myflorida.com

Telephone: 850/488-4441

Fax: 850/487-0801


133 posted on 03/23/2005 9:47:37 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Every morning we awaken to a new dawn is reason enough to celebrate - have a drink, Teddy!)
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To: kcvl

"Dr. Ronald Cranford has even testified in court that spoon-feeding may be classed as "artificial," presumably because helping people to eat is somehow unnatural."

um, so babies shouldn't be fed with a spoon, guess they'll just have to start managing on their own. /sarc off


134 posted on 03/23/2005 9:47:55 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
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To: Iwo Jima

"I was just thinking today I wonder how Michael likes being the most hated man in America, OK, maybe next to Scott Peterson"

This is the more outrageous of the two, because we're watching Michael dump the body into the ocean alive and sanctioned by our government.

How many 25 year-olds collapse from potassium imbalance?

Watching O Reilly, he thinks Michael Schiavo should compromise. He doesn't realize that scumball probably strangled his wife.

That's why he is so adamant about offing Terry. He is a control freak to the nth degree.

Yes, serious angst should be directed against MS, so he will have a glimpse at how the rest of his life will go.


135 posted on 03/23/2005 9:50:09 PM PST by at bay
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To: PhiKapMom
Litigation As Spiritual Practice by George J. Felos

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Editorial Reviews
Alan Cohen, Author of Wisdom of the Heart
"Here is a masterful blend of spiritual awareness and legal expertise ..."

Sudhir Jonathan Foust, President Kripalu Center for Yoga and Health
"... George Felos offers a fascinating doorway into the inner and outer struggle of the Self."

Neale Donald Walsch, Author of Conversations with God
"This book could be called 'God in the Courtroom.'"

From the Inside Flap
Such a deep, dark, silent blue. I stared as far into her eyes as I could, hoping to sense some glimmer of understanding, some hint of awareness. The deeper I dove, the darker became the blue, until the blue became the black of some bottomless lake. "Mrs. Browning, do you want to die? ... Do you want to die?" - I near shouted as I continued to peer into her pools of strikingly beautiful but incognizant blue. It felt so eerie. Her eyes were wide open and crystal clear, but instead of the warmth of lucidity, they burned with the ice of expressionlessness. With this meeting, attorney George J. Felos became the legal advocate of Estelle Browning's right to die and in the process plumbed the depths of death and dying and spearheaded a social revolution to enable death with dignity in the state of Florida. Felos uses this case and a decade-long tax battle with the United States Justice Department - sending him to Hong Kong's back alleys in search of antique jades and ivories - as framework to interweave the story of his law practice and spiritual unfoldment.

Litigation as Spiritual Practice describes the excitement and drama of the courtroom, and the ecstasy and anguish of spiritual evolution in a combative environment

If the seemingly barren and war strewn field of litigation can be the playground where spirit dances, it can revel anywhere.

136 posted on 03/23/2005 9:51:32 PM PST by Mo1 (Why can't the public see Terry - What are they afraid of ??)
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To: Jeff Head
Greer should have recused himself long ago. It is now up to Jeb Bush to act, as he indicated at 3 PM today...and act quickly.

Judge Greer should have undergone a Florida judicial review long ago. His overwhelming bias in this case in favor of Michael Schiavo and his lawyer, George Felos, reeks of ulterior motives.

From some of the emerging details in Greer's handling of this case, the Judge's absolute control over the Probate Court in his jurisdiction has led to the formation of an invisible association of lawyers, other judges and doctors that are all tied together by financial interests in nursing homes, hospices, real estate blind trusts, and related entities,

The purpose of Greer's network seems to be to take advantage of the myriad ward/guardianship relationships that fall under Greer's control of Probate. and direct a flow of Florida's disabled and elderly patients--with their nursing home insurance funds, real estate holdings, jewelry, art, and other valuables into the cash flow of Greer's matrix.

Terri has been caught up in Judge Greer's Probate spiderweb and is obviously going to die because Michael, rather than the Schindlers, ended up with the green stuff that buys lawyers, doctors and, especially, Probate Judges in Florida's Pinellas County.

Details of Greer's scam are beginning to surface now under the immense pressure of public scrutiny presently being applied--but boxes and boxes of evidence are still under Greer's ultra-protective seal.

One facet of Greer's criminal activity seems to be emerging in the case linked below--but a subpoena is needed to switch on the sunlight:


"Informed sources say that the agent, said to be personally known to Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, has given a statement in the case to attorneys for the Schindler family but that reportedly the document has not been presented to the court.

"Such information could be enough for a court-ordered injunction to immediately reinsert the feeding tube of Terri Schiavo in that a high ranking police officer has determined there is sufficient probable cause that crimes have been committed in the Schiavo case. Such new evidence could be sufficient to order a new trial in the case.

"It could also give reasonable cause for Gov. Bush to immediately take Terri Schiavo into protective custody and save her life.

"The Agents will come forward with a subpoena but thus far, their request has not been honored."

FDLE [Florida Department of Law Enforcement ] Agent Implicates McCabe in Halting Schiavo Probe; New Evidence, Subpoena Could Save Terri

137 posted on 03/23/2005 9:53:37 PM PST by henbane
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To: SeaBiscuit
Dr. Ronald Cranford

In published articles, including a 1997 op-ed in the Minneapolis–St. Paul Star Tribune, he has advocated the starvation of Alzheimer’s patients. He has described PVS patients as indistinguishable from other forms of animal life. He has said that PVS patients and others with brain impairment lack personhood and should have no constitutional rights. Perusing the case literature and articles surrounding the “right to die” and PVS, one will see Dr. Cranford’s name surface again and again. In almost every case, he is the one claiming PVS, and advocating the cessation of nutrition and hydration.

138 posted on 03/23/2005 9:57:23 PM PST by kcvl
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To: cabalofdom
When a family friend claimed a 19-year-old Terri was upset that right to die icon Karen Ann Quinlan's parents removed her from life support

If the judge discounted the statement because the family friend said that Quinlan was removed from life support when Terri was 19, then the judge was right. Even if he misspoke. Terri was 13 when Quinlan was removed from life support.

139 posted on 03/23/2005 9:58:51 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: SeaBiscuit
Dr. Ronald Cranford, is on the board of the Euthanasia Society of America, has ties to the Hemlock Society and even advocates denial of spoon-feeding for the disabled.

In the cases of Paul Brophy, Nancy Jobes, Nancy Cruzan, and Christine Busalucci, Cranford was the doctor behind the efforts to end their lives. Each of these people was brain-damaged but not dying; nonetheless, he advocated death for all, by dehydration and starvation. Nancy Cruzan did not even require a feeding tube: She could be spoon-fed. But Cranford advocated denying even that, saying that even spoon-feeding constituted “medical treatment” that could be licitly withdrawn.

140 posted on 03/23/2005 10:03:22 PM PST by kcvl
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