Posted on 03/23/2005 2:34:59 PM PST by gopwinsin04
State officials say they are considering removing Terri Schiavo from hospice, by force if necessary, despite numerous court orders upholding the removal of the artificial nutrition tube that has kept her alive for 15 years.
Lucy Hadl, secretary of the Department of Children and Families, said Wednesday morning that her staff is relying on a state law that gives the department the authority to intervene on behalf of a vulnerable adult who is 'suffering from abuse or neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury.'
Hadl said that the DCF would have to file a petition in order to remove Schiavo, but that 'it doesn't mean we'd have to have judicial approval in advance of taking the action if we believed it met the threshold for doing it.'
Hadl said that seven years of court rulings backing Schiavo's husband Michael, in his contention that Terri Schiavo did not wish to be kept alive artificially would not stop the DCF from taking action.
'We're not compelled to look at prior judicial proceedings,' Hadl said.
What we are compelled to look at is the presenting circumstances and any allegiations of abuse and neglect that we have recieved. So we have to deal with those and fufill out statutory responsibility.'
(Excerpt) Read more at palmbeachpost.com ...
Sounds like a troll to me. I'm surprised he survived the remarks you just reposted.
We all are, especially those of us stuck in Floriduuuhhh. But first we need Jeb to make the call. I hope he is not waiting for the Supremes to do their thing, time is of the essence.
You don't think they were counting on Greer to give an order so patently illegal as to justify his removal from the case?
SCREW EM! The are not the supreme authorities! The DCF is exercising it power it authority that comes from legislative laws. THE JUDICAL TYRANTS NEED TO GET SLAPPED DOWN AND UNDERSTAND THEY ARE CO-EQUAL! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
The Judge can jail the director of CPS.
The Director of CPS cannot jail the Judge.
So9
The people in that county need to get rid of their overseers and get human beings.
They took away the power of the executive to TAKE life, but they left the executive the power to prevent life from being taken, in the form of executive clemency. By doing so, I think it should be agreed that the executive should also have to power to grant clemency in a civil case where the judgement will result in the death of one of the involved parties. At least it should be agreed by rational, civilized and moral people.
How about RECALLED.
All by himself? NO!
"Git 'er done." You said it!
I agree. They know what Greer is about. They were preparing the public when they spoke today.
So well said.
Doing the right thing at any cost - no one can tell you its wrong....saving a life. Otherwise, we must tell the fireman - don't risk your life to help another - it's not right anymore - just show up to the fire and pretend. Our to our servicemen... do your best to keep a low profile and wait out your two years.
For a normal person, water deprivation would likely leave them weakened and highly discomfited. For a person whose cerebral cortex has been liquefied for over 10 years, however, they would have no knowledge, understanding, or sensation to inform them what was happening to them. I'm sorry, but that's the truth. As much as I dislike the way right-to-die zealots have manipulated this case to serve their ends (and please believe me, I do), and as much as I question her husband's motives, Terri Schiavo, as a "person" most likely ceased to exist long ago. If so, "She" is not suffering. Her body may be all that remains, and if so, I trust her soul has long since departed. This is a painfully difficult case, and one that, in a more thoughtful and less litigious world ought not be decided by judges, but by loved ones.
Now, here is the difficult part. To quote Charles Krauthammer:
The Florida court found that most of her cerebral cortex is gone. But 'most' does not mean all. There might be some cortex functioning. The very severely retarded or brain-damaged can have some consciousness. And we do not go around euthanizing the minimally conscious in the back wards of the mental hospitals on the grounds that their lives are not worth living.
Mr. Krauthammer is correct. And yet, the far better likelihood is that Terri's parents will ultimately need to accept the bitter truth about her condition. Like many others, I have struggled with this story because I am resolutely pro-Life, and would like more definitive tests to have been conducted for the purpose of determining whether anything remains of the person that once was. I hope that such an opportunity remains. Nonetheless, the likelihood of such an outcome is remote at best. Perhaps it is time to let her go, and focus on reforming the law to protect those who cannot speak for themselves - including the unborn.
It is clear that this bloody business is getting out of hand. When you have the court passing de facto death sentences on innocent persons, something is out of kilter. The other branches of government, and, ultimately, the citizens who establish such government, would be remiss if they did not act to oppose such blatant abuses of the citizenry.
Thanks for the response. I guess that makes sense. I'm just a little surprised that someone didn't file a complaint last time.
Didn't the INS decide that Elian's bio-father was his guardian? ...And the courts deferred to that?
So well said, chimera.
Just goes to show how far propaganda/bias/brainwashing can take a big crowd of people, doesn't it?
Read Ann Coulter's piece just referred to above. The opposition has already used force as they pleased. As Jack Ryan said in a Tom Clancy book, "The constitution is not a suicide pact." And the rule of law is not an excuse to bury our heads in the sand or to raise "The Law" to the position of Absolute Authority. The law is a man-made artifact and we do not genuflect to it or to those men born in original sin who mis-apply it.
This nation was established by men who meant to govern themselves... better than a king or some inbred aristocracy. And now we are to pledge our allegiance, "our lives, ,our fortunes, our sacred honor" to some guy in a black robe whose tortured legal pronouncements somehow have the weight of holy writ.
That is not democracy. That is serfdom.
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