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To: Sapirit
there is no hard statistical evidence for any material damages which are caused by promiscuity

That's crazy talk, there's plenty of evidence for it. Virtually all cervical cancer (at least 98%, maybe 100%) is caused by human papilloma virus, a very, very common STD. (50% of sexually active teenage girls have it, and most don't even know it.) Is cancer not "material damage"?

Condoms have ZERO proven effectiveness in stopping the transmission of HPV, because it's transmitted by skin-to-skin contact, not through semen. And it's perfectly happy to be transmitted by oral sex, too.

I already mentioned that chlamydia causes PID, which causes infertility. Condoms reduce, but certainly don't eliminate the risk of gettin chlamydia -- and (as the article indicates) these college students aren't using condoms anyway. Practically nobody uses them for oral sex, which, again transmits chlamydia just fine. Is infertility not "material damage"?

Plenty of evidence, too, that promiscuous people have more trouble forming stable marriages. That doesn't mean that none do, just that they're more likely to have trouble.

You are saying some very false and dangerous things on this thread.

203 posted on 03/22/2005 5:34:05 AM PST by Campion
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To: Campion
1. condom actually does prevent 98% of physical problems - so they write everywhere, and observations support it also. However, even if success rate was, say, 60%, you still think it would stop people from having premarital sex? puhleezee...

2. HPV, because it's transmitted by skin-to-skin contact

then how not sleeping around will prevent one from contracting it?

3. these college students aren't using condoms anyway - aha! so, the problem is not lack of modesty, but failure to use condoms. :)

Plenty of evidence, too, that promiscuous people have more trouble forming stable marriages. That doesn't mean that none do, just that they're more likely to have trouble.
again, who said they are interested in marriage? who said they are willing to sacrifice their idea of exciting adventurous life for your idea of happy marriage? People don't wake up one day and decide they want to be happily married; usually something from the beginning is hard-wired in their heart (not brain)

You are saying some very false and dangerous things on this thread.

no, just realistic. I plan to be just as honest with my daughter, when she grows up: I will present her all common speculations, both supporting my stance and negating it, and my opinions about them and the real logic behind all this. Because if I don't, she will bring me some newest junk study citing that more sexually experienced women please their husbands better or something like that, and that would give her license to go wild?

I actually need to work. Otherwise, there will be hard evidence of my ended career :)

204 posted on 03/22/2005 5:56:48 AM PST by Sapirit
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