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'Girls Just As Bad As Boys' (College "Girls Gone Wild")
The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | March 21, 2005 | Lori Rakl and Andrew Herrmann

Posted on 03/21/2005 9:49:25 AM PST by MisterRepublican

CARBONDALE -- On the dance floor at Gatsby's II, a popular bar at Southern Illinois University in Carbondale, a tall brunette drinks beer from a plastic pitcher while she grinds her backside into a man's body.

A silver disco ball hangs overhead while a blond woman in a pink, pleated miniskirt writhes on her partner's leg.

A girl notices that her boyfriend's attention is wandering. With a manicured hand, she grabs his face and plants a Hollywood-worthy kiss on his mouth.

On this sticky dance floor, littered with plastic cups and packed with gyrating bodies, women are the hunters as much as the hunted.

Traditional stereotypes dictate that men want sex, and women crave love. But, on today's college campuses, students say those gender lines are blurrier than a pair of beer goggles.

When a University of Illinois sorority girl observed over lunch at a Champaign cafe that "guys aren't looking for love," her friend chimed in: "I don't think we can blame it on the guys. I'm not looking for love, either."

Girls are just as bad as boys now," another woman said.

"To guys, [sex is] still like scoring," said author Tom Wolfe, who spent two years on college campuses researching his new novel. "The strange part is that it's become that for girls, too. They'll say, 'I scored Jack last night . . . finally!'''

A federal government survey of 4,600 college students found that slightly more male than female undergrads are virgins.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: coeds; justlike1981then; promiscuity; sluts; wherearethepics
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To: Aquinasfan
A chaste person will be happier than an unchaste person, just as a person who eats in moderation will be happier than a glutton (even though the glutton may claim that he's happier).

I don't see that a chaste person equates to one who eats in moderation.

221 posted on 03/22/2005 9:22:31 AM PST by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: Aquinasfan
You sound like someone rationalizing past sins.

I'm saying nags are neither helpful nor effective. I notice you didn't answer the question.

Anyone who's been in a relationship knows that there's no such thing as "meaningless trysts."

Your opinion is just that.

222 posted on 03/22/2005 9:30:00 AM PST by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: laredo44
I'm saying nags are neither helpful nor effective.

Why would you spend the time to post this unless my "nagging" was bothering you, in which case your conscience must be bothering you?

I notice you didn't answer the question.

What question?

Anyone who's been in a relationship knows that there's no such thing as "meaningless trysts."

Your opinion is just that.

I thought you might try this way out.

The trouble is, when you say that your sexual encounters are meaningless, you're saying that your most serious actions (possible generation of new life/possible contraction of serious disease) are meaningless, in which case either you regard yourself as meaningless or life as meaningless; in which case you must be profoundly unhappy.

There is a way out of this. You can repent and serve the Truth.

223 posted on 03/22/2005 10:24:14 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Campion
Staying pure, and picking your spouse intelligently for his/her friendship potential (not something superficial like looks or a nice car), and keeping God at the center of things ... those are the secrets to a happy marriage.

I couldn't disagree more with the above and I've been happily married for a long time now. Friendship is highly overrated in marriage, and sexual chemistry is grossly undervalued. Interestingly enough, I recently read something similar (to my comments) by James Dobson of all people.

224 posted on 03/22/2005 10:26:25 AM PST by Melas
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To: Sapirit
if homosexuality and orgies and sadistic perversions is your idea of high personal integrity, then i pass... they collapsed after few hundred years and completely disappeared.

They lasted for four times the history of the United States. That's not unimpressive even if they had some bloody pastimes.

And the Romans provided the groundwork for all of Western Civilization.

225 posted on 03/22/2005 10:28:13 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: laredo44
I don't see that a chaste person equates to one who eats in moderation.

Sexual intercourse is reserved by nature for a lifelong, exclusive, male/female relationship for the begetting and raising of children, and the mutual care of the spouses. This is intuitively obvious and proven by common experience. Therefore, those who reserve intercourse for marriage are happier than those who don't; just as those who eat as nature intends (in moderation, primarily for nutrition and growth) are happier than those who abuse food (who overeat, eating primarily for pleasure).

226 posted on 03/22/2005 10:31:31 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Gingersnap

Everyone loses in the sexual revolution. Everyone except those who avoid that war.


227 posted on 03/22/2005 10:33:37 AM PST by SaltyJoe (Do you "life" enough to earn your inalienable rights? Does your judge think that you're alive?)
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To: Aquinasfan
Yes. Very sad. There's nothing like having the rest of your life to regret poor youthful choices. But at least they can look back and know that no one cared enough about them to warn them of the dangers.

Most folks grow up and move on. Very few are stuck in an endless cycle of sorrow over their youthful indiscretions. However, there is nothing more pitiful than to see 40 year olds, men or women, trying to live as though they are 19.

I made a lot mistakes when I was young, a whole lot. Thank God, I learned from them.

229 posted on 03/22/2005 10:36:12 AM PST by Melas
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To: Centurion2000
And the Romans provided the groundwork for all of Western Civilization.

that deserves big paragraph outlining all the morally wrong things they did including basic lack of respect for human life, subordinate position of women, etc etc etc. Or you mean scientific and art stuff? Even for that, price tag is a bit too high IMHO.

230 posted on 03/22/2005 10:39:42 AM PST by Sapirit
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To: pissant
I too am married & have a wonderful 1 yo daughter. My wife has been reserved and conservative her whole life, but even she has a few 'gone wild' stories.

Most of us do, men and women. What we have here is a whole bunch of people who're looking backing on youth with the eyes of maturity, and not grasping why young people aren't thinking like they do. It's not registering with them, that they will, in time.

231 posted on 03/22/2005 10:43:04 AM PST by Melas
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To: Sapirit

As someone that's done the co-habitation thing, I can see both sides of the issue. It's most likely a far healthier lifestyle emotionally to not do it for long, if at all.

The whole thing is quite complicated to me. I'm not sure it's necessary to remain a virgin until marriage, or even if that's best. However, I do think that it's probably best to get married ASAP if you're going to be living together.


232 posted on 03/22/2005 10:46:40 AM PST by G32
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To: Melas

The moralizers, while I appreciate their point of view, seem to think college kids should act like adults. Maybe they should, but they never will.


233 posted on 03/22/2005 10:47:19 AM PST by pissant
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To: MikeinIraq
im waiting for the "damn kids/back in my day" crowd to show up here....

You mean back when we just bashed 'em on the head and dragged them back to the cave.

(As long as they weren't bigger than us)

234 posted on 03/22/2005 10:48:22 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: G32

you sure you meant to post that specifically to me? :) because i'm agressively against cohabitation


235 posted on 03/22/2005 10:48:47 AM PST by Sapirit
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To: All
...college kids should act like adults. Maybe they should, but they never will.

and yet another one trying to ajust standards for popular vote :) Just because many people fail, doesn't mean failure is OK and even expected. And many "moralizers" were college kids, too.

236 posted on 03/22/2005 10:52:31 AM PST by Sapirit
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To: Melas
I couldn't disagree more with the above and I've been happily married for a long time now. Friendship is highly overrated in marriage, and sexual chemistry is grossly undervalued.

And I completely disagree with what you're saying, and I've also been happily married for a fairly long time. (A long time = 2 Rush Limbaugh divorces.)

"Sexual chemistry" is worthless garbage if your spouse is a nasty, evil, vindictive, amoral person. On the other hand, it's relatively easy to find a kind, loving, thoughtful person tremendously attractive, sexually and every other way.

237 posted on 03/22/2005 10:58:37 AM PST by Campion
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To: pissant
The moralizers, while I appreciate their point of view, seem to think college kids should act like adults.

Most of us moralizers were college kids once upon a time, and were better behaved as college kids than the ones described in articles like these.

238 posted on 03/22/2005 10:59:42 AM PST by Campion
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To: Sapirit

Yes, but you do like hamsters.


239 posted on 03/22/2005 11:01:30 AM PST by G32
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To: laredo44
Marriage and childbearing used to be common in the mid to late teens. Now it's mid to late twenties. You're a bit disingenuous to expect adults to keep the sex genie in the bottle for an additional decade

But I'm not. I think people are marrying later than they should, and for the wrong reasons. People are marrying later, BTW, in large part because they're not keeping the sex genie in the bottle.

240 posted on 03/22/2005 11:02:52 AM PST by Campion
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