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CA: The talk in Los Angeles is the talk of getting out (33% want to leave)
Daily Breeze ^ | 3/17/2005 | Josh Grossberg

Posted on 03/17/2005 3:59:11 PM PST by BurbankKarl

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To: 68 grunt
March 6, 2005
Orange County Register

California remains mired in a budget mess for the simple reason that the state government continues to spend taxpayers' dollars far in excess of the revenues that come in. Because the Democratic-controlled Legislature refuses to control its spending habits, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is looking to put a spending limitation on the November ballot that forces the government to live within its means. So far, so good.

Unfortunately, he might be leaning toward a measure backed by the California Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable that, if enacted, would limit spending only in rare instances and could be used as a justification for increasing taxes.

A spending limit should, in theory, significantly limit spending. But the "California Live Within Our Means Act" is a thrown-together idea that gives the appearance of limiting spending without sufficiently doing so. The apparent goal is a political one: to short-circuit a real spending cap proposed by Sen. John Campbell (limiting budget growth to an increase in population and inflation).

The California Live Within Our Means Act would limit spending increases to the average increase in revenues from the past three years' budgets. It would give the governor the power to trigger across-the- board spending cuts when the Legislature overspends that limit, but there is nothing to stop the Legislature from relying on tax increases to "fix" the overspending.

If Gov. Schwarzenegger embraces this foolish idea rather than the serious limits proposed by Sen. Campbell, the public had better brace for continuing budget crises and a renewed pitch for higher taxes. Better no reform at all than this phony bill of goods.

'Live Within Our Means' means little

121 posted on 03/17/2005 6:31:01 PM PST by John Lenin (What problem ?)
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To: BurbankKarl

No mention of the multiple pressures caused by Illegal/legal immigration? Not a very objective article.

Though they did mention the bad schools but no mention of why.

Middle class moving away -- tax base moving out big time. Not looking good for the DPRK.


122 posted on 03/17/2005 6:35:01 PM PST by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name!)
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To: John Lenin

You really should go with mommy and daddy to Oregon. LA is not for the weak.


123 posted on 03/17/2005 6:42:21 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

Been self employed for 27 years, I think I can handle myself. Talk to me when the bubble bursts.


124 posted on 03/17/2005 6:46:53 PM PST by John Lenin (What problem ?)
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To: L,TOWM

"I was born in San Diego and lived my entire 43 years in CA. This state has turned into an overpriced $#!+hole."

Yep. I live in Ventura in a good area, and I don't even like to leave town anymore.


125 posted on 03/17/2005 6:48:47 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: BurbankKarl

126 posted on 03/17/2005 6:48:57 PM PST by timestax
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To: 68 grunt

As Al Goron once said, you ain't seen nothing yet, this is just the beginning.


127 posted on 03/17/2005 6:50:03 PM PST by John Lenin (What problem ?)
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To: Nachum

What a wonderful article. I encourage all unhappy Los Angeles residents to leave.
It is just awful here, get going while the going is good!

Please go!

I will just have to stay here and suffer the terrible warm weather, beaches and mountains by myself.

Really. It's OK. I can handle it. You go on now. Don't worry about us. We'll be OK.

No kidding.


No we don't want them in Normal USA, the Red States, you kalifornia freaks stay away, we will make you very uncomfortable in Decent America. Keep you political correctness to your stupid selves, stay where you belong, you are not welcome in Decent America.


128 posted on 03/17/2005 6:52:23 PM PST by Ethyl (T)
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129 posted on 03/17/2005 6:52:25 PM PST by timestax
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To: John Lenin

That figures. Campbell has the right idea....anything else is bullshit.


130 posted on 03/17/2005 6:52:30 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: international american

No politician will ever do what has to be done. I will stand by my prediction, Wall Street will take over when the state defaults on the bonds.


131 posted on 03/17/2005 6:55:14 PM PST by John Lenin (What problem ?)
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To: Heyworth

" we decided to try Sherman Oaks. Found something nice at a good price very quickly"

When was this??


132 posted on 03/17/2005 6:55:29 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: John Lenin

The state probably will default. And when you think about how much we pay in taxes, this is a travesty.


133 posted on 03/17/2005 6:58:19 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: international american

134 posted on 03/17/2005 7:00:23 PM PST by John Lenin (What problem ?)
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To: timestax

135 posted on 03/17/2005 7:01:05 PM PST by timestax
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To: timestax

Where is that?


136 posted on 03/17/2005 7:02:27 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: international american

San Diego=Pacific Beach..


137 posted on 03/17/2005 7:04:30 PM PST by timestax
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To: missyme

You bought right before the first of the three big appreciation cycles. You won!


138 posted on 03/17/2005 7:05:05 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: timestax

139 posted on 03/17/2005 7:08:11 PM PST by timestax
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To: Tench_Coxe

"Great, ruin one city, then just move on to ruin another.

That is what the liberals in the US are up to, they want to ruin cities and move to the next with their stupid proposals for rent control, city and state taxes, personal property taxes, controlling what residences could do with their own land, and demanding demoncraptic control of the city and school boards. We need to rid the land of such creatures. They are very ugly.


140 posted on 03/17/2005 7:08:22 PM PST by Ethyl (T)
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