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Here is part 2:
http://www.marssociety.org/news/2005/0228.asp

Here is part 3:
http://www.marssociety.org/news/2005/0307.asp
1 posted on 03/16/2005 6:03:51 PM PST by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 03/16/2005 6:05:02 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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Withdraw from the 1967 Treaty on the Ownership of celestial objects and establish private property in space.


3 posted on 03/16/2005 6:11:05 PM PST by frithguild (Defining hypocrisy - Liberals fear liberty.)
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How much water will have to be lifted into space to be transported to Mars?


5 posted on 03/16/2005 6:15:07 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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Give the Job to BURT RUTAN, he will figure a way to do it cheaper and better, without the need for NASA, Waaaaaaaaahhhhh,


6 posted on 03/16/2005 6:16:04 PM PST by agincourt1415 (4 More Years of NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN!)
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Zubrin completely misses it on economies of scale, bigger is not more economical if you're only launching 2-3 times a year.
A medium-lift launcher that has a high launch rate will trump all of the supposed economic advantages of a HLV.
When you factor in the costs of developing a HLV, possibly a shuttle-derived HLV, it quickly becomes a shuttle program on steroids in terms of costs.
When there is enough of a market to support a decent flight rate for a HLV, then one will be built, and NASA doesn't need to build it, they just need to be another paying customer.


9 posted on 03/16/2005 7:36:57 PM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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10 posted on 03/16/2005 7:46:47 PM PST by quietolong
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Project Orion
11 posted on 03/16/2005 8:11:21 PM PST by Mr. Thorne ("But iron, cold iron, shall be master of them all..." Kipling)
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Robert Zubrin, who is part genius, part kook, has explained in the past why a lunar base is unnecessary...but I dunno if I agree any longer. I think it would be beneficial.


14 posted on 03/17/2005 6:23:35 AM PST by RockinRight (Electing Hillary president would be akin to giving a drunken teenage boy keys to the Porsche)
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Zubrin had one notable insight a year ago.

By establishing a strong space program and going to Mars, and going big, we can defeat the infestation of terrorism in the world. It will take a generation or two because the way to do this is to show the young people that there is no comparison between what their terorism can do versus what free people working constructively can do. When the children of terrorists look around and see that their enemy is sending people to Mars and accomplishing all these amazing things while terrorists are accomplishing nothing, they will use their power of thought and decide to live life and join those who are doing great things, not just end up pizza toppings as a goal

16 posted on 03/17/2005 9:39:29 AM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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Seems like too many vehicles and coordinated launches, rendezvous, orbit insertions, etc.

Too many possible components & systems to fail on multiple platforms. Power supplies, propulsion, guideance/tracking, life support, hard/software, the human factors, the 10$ bolt failure...


20 posted on 03/17/2005 6:03:51 PM PST by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name!)
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