Mother Of Us All, Or Sister? Olmecs A Puzzle

Times Union ^ | 3-15-2005 | John Noble Wilford

[keithtoo]

Asians have little or no facial hair though. What's the deal with the beard?

[muir_redwoods]

bump for later

[keithtoo]

Asian have little or no facial hair though. What's the deal with the beard?

[muawiyah]

Carolina, in fact, was Caroline, the Spanish Princess after which the area was named.

The Spanish had a mission at Hopewell, Virginia!

DeSoto came as far North as Terre Haute, Indiana, while members of his party actually traveled all the way North to Lake Michigan. Then there's the fellow who put Spanish boundary markers in what is now West Virginia.

This was New Spain!

[muawiyah]

Different Asians have different amounts of facial hair. You may be thinking of the Indian practice of pulling out the hairs ~ that leaves you "clean shaven" longer.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

There is another very large mound, not quite a pyramid, in Tennessee...
I drove by it the other day.

[keithtoo]

I didn't think American indians had ANY facial hair. And very little body hair at all.

[blam]

"Didn't I read somewhere that Some other plains tribes could hold a conversation in Hindi?"

You may find this thread from earlier today interesting.

Searching For The Welsh-Hindi Link

[muawiyah]

American Indians, like other Asiatic people, have facial and body hair, although not generally to the degree you would get with Iraqis (for example).

[blam]

"The Japanese have an ancestry that appears to be aboaut 60% identical to the Chinese, and 40% identical to the ancient Jomon, who are also the same as the modern Ainu."

Professor Stephen Oppenheimer has done some pretty good DNA work and is covered in his book, "Out Of Eden."

He says the 'X' gene (so called European gene) that is found only in Europe and among the American Indian population was once widespread. The Toba volcano 74,000 years ago severed the link (killed everyone in between). There was an explosion of human DNA 'branches' just after Toba and again during/after the Last Glacial Maximum(LGM).

[blam]

"Read a book called the Zuni Enigma by Davis. That book pretty well documents Japanese trade to our west coast and Southwest from about 800AD to 1400 AD."

See post #10.

[muawiyah]

Saw that on "Factor X" ~ another interesting connection with all the world's early writing systems is that the Sumerians invented them all, even the first one used in China (what we might call "proto Shang") as well as Egyptian hieroglyphics.

The Sumerians were also a wide-ranging nomadic people who kept and/or hunted cattle.

One philologist has demonstrated that there is a single American Indian language (once spoken in California) that is related to an Old World language. That language is, intriguingly, Sumerian.

As a consequence I'm not too sure that any Shang characters we find in the Americas should be attributed to the Chinese since they might more properly be attributed to Sumerians.

[blam]

"As a consequence I'm not too sure that any Shang characters we find in the Americas should be attributed to the Chinese since they might more properly be attributed to Sumerians."

Oppenheimer, in his book, "Eden In The East," said that the Sumerians probably came from SE Asia, Sundaland, when it went (completely) underwater 7-8,000 years ago. The Strait Of Mallaca(sp) was opened at that time and allowed sailing access to Mesopotamia, Egypt, etc..

[muawiyah]

The Sumerian cognate languages are, of course, the 9 still spoken among the Sa'ami in Scandinavia, as well as the dozens and dozens of variations spoken among the Dravidian peoples in India.

It's really difficult to tell where the core Sumerian ethnic group came from, but I would imagine it's not too farfetched to suggest that they turned into an occupation group best described with the word "scribe".

[hispanarepublicana]

ancestry.com will do a DNA genealogy profile for around $300. I've always wanted to do it just to see what would turn up.

[blam]

Dr Robert Schoch wrote a book, Voyages Of The Pyramid Builders, with the same (out of Sundaland) theme. He said the Sundaland refugees took their custom of pyramid building with them all over the world.

[blam]

"ancestry.com will do a DNA genealogy profile for around $300. I've always wanted to do it just to see what would turn up."

What would you think if it indicated you were related to the Basque people?

[muawiyah]

We still put out our seit stones, of course. Always wondered why we did that, then they invented the internet!

BTW, many of the "mounds" found in Midwestern river valleys have more than one purpose ~ they become places to move out of the flood waters in Spring.

[keithtoo]

Just read on another thread the explanation of Hindi being understood by some American Indian tribes.

Here goes:

1. Welsh and Hindi are related languages, with Indo-European roots and similar structure.

2. King Mardoc of Wales lead a flotilla of 700 ships to America in the 600's. 'White men', ie: Welsh, were reported to have traveled into the American midwest.

3. Hence, plains tribes were able to communicate with a Hindi speaker.