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To: farmer18th

We own slaves,only white men can vote or own property, we're burning people at the stake for being witches.


37 posted on 03/13/2005 5:12:57 PM PST by The Chosen One
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To: The Chosen One
We own slaves,

Speak for yourself. My ancestors were aboltionists as far back as the 17th century. But even if they were slave owners, what's worse: owning slaves or killing unborn children in the womb? Owning slaves or eroticizing human excrement and the anal cavity and then asking the rest of humanity to bless your dung-covered lifestyle?

we're burning people at the stake for being witches.

"..thou shalt not suffer a witch to live..." Exodus 22:18. (Hint: if you decide that you want to apologize for God, please don't do it next to me or my family. I've seen lightning up close, and it's not pretty.)
47 posted on 03/13/2005 5:22:00 PM PST by farmer18th
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To: The Chosen One
we're burning people at the stake for being witches.

In 1794 they were still burning witches?

You know, that bears looking at. Here's another way to think about it:

Not so long ago spies were executed. When we had good reason to believe that someone was working for our enemy, it was generally considered legitimate to kill him or her.

The problem with burning witches, therefore, was, as it were, in "trying the fact". The law, that agents of the enemy should be punished, is not intrinsically wrong. It's not that we don't believe any more in punishing enemy agents. We just don't believe in witches.

50 posted on 03/13/2005 5:25:47 PM PST by Mad Dawg (My P226 wants to teach you what SIGnify means ...)
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To: The Chosen One

Where in the world are you talking about? Where were witches "burnt at the stake" in 1794? If you want credibility, you should first try accuracy.


51 posted on 03/13/2005 5:25:53 PM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: The Chosen One
we're burning people at the stake for being witches.

That was the 1690's ... you're off by about a century.

132 posted on 03/13/2005 11:16:39 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: The Chosen One
We own slaves,only white men can vote or own property, we're burning people at the stake for being witches.

Y'all sound really busy...

Not everyone owned slaves.

Voters (free, white, male, 21, and a property owner) had a vested interest in the well being of what governmnet there was, because they were the ones who funded it, not the other way around.

Burning witches was a Massachussets affectation. I am unaware of any other place in the colonies where that occurred.

138 posted on 03/14/2005 1:06:46 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I work with computers too much to let one run my car!)
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To: The Chosen One

"only white men can vote or own property"


Since the others were covered early in the thread, I'll stick to this 1.

BS. Nonsense impressions set by liberal-minded teachers and historians to make their positions look better and the Founders to look bad.

Nothing in the Constitution precludes women or other people of different races to vote. It was up to the states (state's rights!).

New Jersey women voted 1st thing, as did other races there, e.g. Indians voted too.

Not until *more* "conservative" (in the old sense) forces changed about all the states' laws did this essentially white-man only principle exist.

So in 1794, you're wrong. Certainly in many places in the US you're wrong.


281 posted on 03/15/2005 8:15:27 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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