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'War song' for French schools
Mail & Guardian ^ | February 28, 2005 | Kim Willsher

Posted on 03/13/2005 3:20:54 PM PST by NCjim

As a call to arms, few national hymns are as bloody as La Marseillaise. Originally entitled the War Song of the Army of the Rhine, it exhorts citizens of France to take up arms: “Form in batallions, March, march! Let impure blood water our furrows!''

Now, after a 10-year battle, French schoolchildren are to be made to learn the words after a vote by French MPs. The idea is to “transmit to each and every pupil the history of a people united around the values of liberty, equality and fraternity — the history of a people who have never stopped fighting for freedom”, according to the politician behind the proposal.

Jerome Riviere, from the ruling right-of-centre UMP Party, said he wanted to build on a decision two years ago that made insulting the national hymn an offence punishable by a fine of €7 500.

The new measure was passed by the French National Assembly as an amendment to education reforms that have brought mass student demonstrations across France.

La Marseillaise was composed in 1792 by Claude-Joseph Rouget de Lisle, a captain of the Engineers in the Rhine army. France had just declared war on Austria and Prussia and its army was preparing to march on Paris. It became so popular with volunteer army units from Marseilles that it was named after them.


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To: doug from upland
Dam your on a roll today!
(although I didn't mail the French Ambassadors my traditional gift of Chocolate bars and Nylons this year. They did show up with 5,000 guys in Afghanistan)
21 posted on 03/13/2005 3:51:15 PM PST by investigateworld (Another California Refugee in Oregon)
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To: Drango
Thank you for the lyrics, I don't speak French. I have heard this song sung in the movies many times. The melody is great. The actual words are scary. Our Star Spangled Banner is a poem of hope, salvation, triumph, and bravery. Their's sound like a song sung by lunatics and blood thirsty, foul mouth mobs. They sound tough but World History Books tell another story. I have heard lyrics from Hip-Hop Rappers talking about "Bitches, Hos and poppin 5 Os" which made more sense.
22 posted on 03/13/2005 3:54:01 PM PST by wmileo
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To: NCjim

It's actually a great song, a really rousing tune. I can't imagine the childen haven't been learning the words, how do they sing the song? Or do they just listen to the tune?


23 posted on 03/13/2005 3:54:37 PM PST by jocon307
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To: SandRat

1. My country,' tis of thee,
sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing;
land where my fathers died,
land of the pilgrims' pride,
from every mountainside let freedom ring!

2. My native country, thee,
land of the noble free, thy name I love;
I love thy rocks and rills,
thy woods and templed hills;
my heart with rapture thrills, like that above.

3. Let music swell the breeze,
and ring from all the trees sweet freedom's song;
let mortal tongues awake;
let all that breathe partake;
let rocks their silence break, the sound prolong.

4. Our fathers' God, to thee,
author of liberty, to thee we sing;
long may our land be bright
with freedom's holy light;
protect us by thy might, great God, our King.


24 posted on 03/13/2005 3:56:33 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Drango

O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!

America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!
O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern impassion'd stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness.

America! America!
God mend thine ev'ry flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law.

O beautiful for heroes prov'd
In liberating strife,
Who more than self their country loved,
And mercy more than life.

America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness,
And ev'ry gain divine.

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears.

America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea.


25 posted on 03/13/2005 3:57:55 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: NCjim

http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/lyrics/america.htm


26 posted on 03/13/2005 3:58:13 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Drango

My thoughts exactly.


27 posted on 03/13/2005 4:05:33 PM PST by honest2God
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To: Strategerist

Oh, how the mighty have fallen...


28 posted on 03/13/2005 4:07:21 PM PST by Zeon Cowboy (It IS fun to shoot some people!)
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To: Drango
Southrons, hear your country call you!
Up! Lest worse than death befall you!
To arms! To arms! To arms! In Dixie!
Lo! The beacon fire's lighted!
Let our hearts be now united!
To arms! To arms! To arms! In Dixie!

Chorus:

Advance the flag of Dixie!
Hurrah! Hurrah!
For Dixie's land we'll take our stand
to live or die for Dixie!
To arms! To arms!
And conquer peace for Dixie!

How the south's great heart rejoices
at your cannons' ringing voices!
To arms! To arms! To arms! In Dixie!
For faith betrayed and pledges broken,
wrongs inflicted, insults spoken.
To arms! To arms! To arms! In Dixie!

If the loved ones weep in sadness,
victory shall bring them gladness;
to arms! To arms! To arms! In Dixie!
Exultant pride soon banish sorrow;
smiles chase tears away to-morrow.
To arms! To arms! To arms! In Dixie!

29 posted on 03/13/2005 4:07:45 PM PST by Brig_Gen_George_P_Harrison_CSA
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To: Capt. Tom; Virginia Queen; SandRat; smoothsailing; Drango; NCjim; Bob J

""1. often Fascism
1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.""


From Dictionary.com.


Let's see, France is socialist. Chirac is a socialist. Oh! France is antisemetic.






30 posted on 03/13/2005 4:14:06 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: Brig_Gen_George_P_Harrison_CSA; Capt. Tom; Virginia Queen; SandRat; smoothsailing; Drango; NCjim; ..



Sounds like the roots of Fascism. It's alright to be patriotic, but COME ON, it's France. Anti semetism runs rampant, Chirac and his cronies have limited the power of the people, it's socialist, the government bans certain news stations. Fascism.


31 posted on 03/13/2005 4:15:56 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: Capt. Tom
Ah, Casablanca.... that's what I thought of, too.
32 posted on 03/13/2005 4:17:34 PM PST by workerbee
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To: Strategerist

"Actually, when the song was writen, they were fighting Spain, England, Prussia, Austria, and Russia...at the same time. And they won."

However, the French gene pool has never quite recovered from the loses France suffered in those wars.


34 posted on 03/13/2005 4:23:42 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DJ Taylor
http://www.geocities.com/shipwrecks_magazine/rainbow.htm

Remember when France bravely attacked the unarmed, civilian Rainbow Warrior? Only killed one civilian...
36 posted on 03/13/2005 4:28:38 PM PST by Drango (All my ideas, good or bad, are stolen from other FReepers)
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To: DJ Taylor; Strategerist
the French gene pool has never quite recovered from the losses France suffered in those wars.

The French Revolution was a bunch of bunk, and so was Napoleon. After Napoleon the Ancien Regime came back, having "learned nothing and forgotten nothing".

The French have since never achieved a National Unity or a mission of what as a nation they offer the world.

They paper over their disunity by acting according to a false sense of grandeur and a bitter envy towards nations that have truly changed the world, e.g. Great Britain, the U.S., Israel.

Their mission now is to make all Europe as cynical and meaningless as they have become.
37 posted on 03/13/2005 5:19:50 PM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: investigateworld

Both those songs were from the archives.


38 posted on 03/13/2005 5:52:23 PM PST by doug from upland (Ray Charles --- a great musician and safer driver than Ted Kennedy)
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To: NCjim

French answer to convert french cowards over to become Muslim cowards with a taste for BLOOD.. innocent blood.. so they can pick the stupider ones to blow themselves up.. for freedom from freedom.. All very logical to the French mind..


39 posted on 03/13/2005 5:58:19 PM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: NCjim
La Marseillaise is the best national anthem ever written.

Taste in music is a very subjective thing, but I believe that on any objective test of a nation's anthem ability to rouse, inspire and uplift the listener, La Marseillaise is numero uno.

(Excuse the Franco-Italian nature of my comment.)
40 posted on 03/13/2005 6:00:27 PM PST by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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