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Mildly Pro Choice?
Catholic Way ^ | 3/13/05 | Keith A. Fournier

Posted on 03/13/2005 12:11:42 PM PST by tcg

Mildly Pro Choice? By: Keith A. Fournier © Third Millennium, LLC

On March 12, 2005 Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was interviewed by the Washington Times. The interview has fueled the growing speculation that she may be entertaining a bid for the Presidency in 2008. Not because she acknowledged such an intention but simply because she refused to “rule it out”. The speculation has been fueled by a torrent of articles and is the continual banter of talk radio and blogs. It was begun by Dick Morris, the seemingly ever present political speculator.

The Washington D.C. chatter culture is spinning over a possible woman to woman match in 2008 for the Presidency of the United States.

In the blue corner is Senator Hillary Clinton who has been making all the moves that clearly signify her intention to run. She has also begun a bizarre effort to make herself sound as if she somehow sympathizes with the pro-life position while her rhetoric and record are unapologetically in favor of abortion on demand.

In the red corner is Secretary Rice who has captured the attention of many in both parties through her presence, her political savvy and her excellent communication skills. Otherwise clearly pro-life members of her own party seem willing to give her a pass on this issue for reasons I simply do not understand.

Oh, I know, we are repeatedly told that it is too early to speculate about the 2008 race. But is it? The horses are already lining up at the gate. The money is beginning to flow. The fact is that the race is already underway. That is why it is so vital that engaged pro-life people begin to work now to assure that the momentum toward building a culture of life continues. For millions of Americans this issue is not a “single issue” but rather the lens through which the entirety of policy and politics is viewed. The dignity of every human person, at every age and stage, from the first home of the whole human race, a mother’s womb, through and including the sanctuary of the death bed, is the polestar of every economic and public policy issue. While it is true that there are an array of vitally important issues that must also be considered, there is also a hierarchy of values to be applied in the political and policy arena. How one views our obligations to the ones who Mother Theresa rightly called the “poorest of the poor”, children in the womb who have no voice, speaks loudly of how one views the dignity of life itself. The race reveals a serious dearth of concern, in both major parties, for the right to life and the freedom to be born.

Much has been made about the fact that Secretary Rice was the daughter of a preacher, a Presbyterian minister. Yet, in this interview while explaining love for fashion, she made an interesting admission. She said that while her father was preparing for his sermons, she and her mother would shop. One wishes now that she had considered the content of the both the Bible and the unbroken Christian tradition concerning the inviolable dignity of every human person, more than the latest styles.

In the interview she, like Senator Clinton has on several occasions done recently, spoke of her "deep religious faith." Persons of faith must live a unity of life. Religious faith is not “private” in the sense of keeping its influence outside of our daily life. The truths of faith should inform everything that we do. When directly asked about abortion, Secretary Rice sounded very similar to the Senator from new York, saying that abortion should be “as rare a circumstance as possible," and adding "We should not have the federal government in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other….So, for instance, I've tended to agree with those who do not favor federal funding for abortion, because I believe that those who hold a strong moral view on the other side should not be forced to fund it."

It gets murkier. She spoke of pro-lifers as "the other side" and tried to carve herself a niche as being "in effect kind of libertarian on this issue." Then she used the phrase that I have chosen as the title of this article. She spoke of herself as a "mildly pro-choice" Republican. Let me be clear, she also said that she is “….a strong proponent of parental notification.” That is good. She referred to herself as “….a strong proponent of a ban on late-term abortion”, the procedure more akin to infanticide wherein a child is partially delivered so that just the head is accessible only to have his or her brains sucked out. That is simply not enough.

Abortion is the intentional execution of an innocent human person in the first home of the whole human race. Innocent human life must always be defended against this kind of aggression! The claim of being “mildly” pro-choice is like the claim of being a “little bit pregnant”. Every procured abortion is the intentional killing of an innocent human person. For example, why do we say that a woman “lost her baby when she miscarries? Yet, in the case of a procured abortion, we call it “a choice” and a “right.” Or worse, why do we allow politicians to continually refer to it as a “difficult moral issue” as the Secretary did in this interview. Leaders need to lead. This issue is not difficult. It is absolutely clear. This issue is also not simply “religious” in the sense that only religious people feel a certain way about it. Rather, it concerns a fundamental human right. The child in the womb is a human person. Medical science has confirmed what our consciences have long known – what is affirmed by the Natural Law written on every human heart - abortion is killing the innocent.

Like most Americans, I would love to see a talented woman become our President. Perhaps it would finally put behind us a history of discrimination against women. In the case of Secretary Rice, her holding the position would also put another sad fact of our past behind us, discrimination against people of color. However, just as during the last election cycle, when John Kerry tried to run as “a Catholic”, I will make my decision on who to support based upon their positions on the fundamental issues of our age. Choosing someone who claimed to be a Catholic, while he opposed the infallible teaching of his own Church concerning this issue, was not an option for me. Similarly, supporting a woman who is wrong on this issue, simply because she is a woman, is wrong.

There are several dangers emerging in this political plot. Let me discuss just a few.

Secretary Rice has referred to herself as being “libertarian” on this issue. By that she means that she is not pro-life. One cannot believe it is ever right to give someone a choice to do what is always and everywhere wrong. This is one of the areas where the role of Government, to protect innocent human beings against unjust aggression, is eminently clear. Though I believe, as a Catholic Christian, that libertarianism is antithetical to the Christian vision of the human person, the family and the human community, I must point out that even some “libertarians”, such as “libertarians for life”, oppose abortion. The growing “libertarian” impulse in Republican politics may mark a decided turn in the party that will make it increasingly difficult to support, even though between the two parties, it at least has a pro-life platform.

Then there is the tired label, “conservative.” Many faithful Christians, Protestant, Evangelical, Catholic and Orthodox, who have stood faithful to the clear and unbroken tradition of Christianity that procured abortion is always wrong and can never be justified, have been painted into a corner by letting themselves be “labeled” as conservatives. The arguments are already being made that a “conservative” should want issues decided by the States and not favor a big Federal Government. Based on the Christian ordering principle of subsidiarity, I share the desire to keep good governance at the lowest practical level. However, my opposition to abortion is rooted in my opposition to murder. It is a legitimate role of government to protect its citizens from unjust aggression. Abortion is unjust aggression against an innocent victim who is incapable of defending himself or herself. Sending it “back to the Sates” is no solution. Just as slavery was wrong and rightly required a National policy to oppose it and to undo its harm, abortion is wrong and requires the same approach at every level of government.

Here come the “pro-choice” Republicans. Like the “pro-choice” Democrats, they are beginning to spout the platitudes of people who simply have no courage. It is in how we respond to this issue that the soul and future of our Nation will be revealed. The very nature of freedom lies at the heart of the entire discussion. In his monumental encyclical letter entitled the “Gospel of Life”, Pope John Paul II warned of a “counterfeit notion of freedom” as a raw power over others who are weaker. He also wrote about the possible the “death of true freedom” resulting from unmooring our freedom to choose from reference to unchanging truths such as the right to life.

This interview with Secretary Rice should rouse every champion of true freedom to begin to act for the 2008 race now. We need candidates, be they Democrat or Republican, whose position on the right to life is absolutely clear. Not people who claim to be “mildly pro-choice.” ________________________________________________________ Keith A. Fournier is a human rights lawyer and public policy advocate.


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101 posted on 03/14/2005 2:19:56 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Know your rights

Single votes don't usually make a difference. But if the Republicans manage to offend religious voters by nominating a pro-abortion candidate, they will not lose single votes. They will lose a substantial part of the 15 million additional voters who turned out for Bush in 2004.


102 posted on 03/14/2005 2:23:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Know your rights
If my single vote could decide the outcome, you might have a point. It won't, so you don't.

Your single vote could decide the outcome. It is not possible to know if it won't, so your statement is not valid.

103 posted on 03/14/2005 2:30:37 PM PST by oldbrowser (What really matters is culture, ethos, character, and morality)
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To: Know your rights
Then every vote for a third-party candidate also counts.

Every vote counts but in the end only one candidate will get elected. Your votes will either help or hinder the winning candidate. You personally will be partially responsible for the winning candidate.

104 posted on 03/14/2005 2:35:40 PM PST by oldbrowser (What really matters is culture, ethos, character, and morality)
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To: Hildy

Thank you. I'll give you the last word in this fine academic debate.


105 posted on 03/14/2005 2:45:19 PM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Rule One! No Poofters!)
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To: Hildy
Just in case you missed post # 101:

Statement by the founder of Free Republic:

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc.

Get a life. You obviously are not in line with the principles of Free Republic, nor the mainstream of the GOP:

2004 Republican Party Platform: on Abortion


Promote adoption & abstinence, not abortion clinic referrals

We support the President's strong efforts to promote adoption through increased tax incentives and bonuses to states that place older children in permanent family homes, as well as his efforts to promote foster care by increasing the allocation of funds for preventive and family services.

Each year more than three million American teenagers contract sexually transmitted diseases, causing emotional harm and serious health consequences, even death. We support efforts to educate teens and parents about the health risks associated with early sexual activity and provide the tools needed to help teens make healthy choices. Abstinence from sexual activity is the only protection that is 100 percent effective against out-of-wedlock pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases, including sexually transmitted HIV/AIDS. Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We oppose school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related services for contraception and abortion.

Source: 2004 Republican Party Platform, p. 82-83

Human Life Amendment to the Constitution

We must keep our pledge to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence. That is why we say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make it clear that the 14th Amendment's protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

We oppose abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not include punitive action against women who have an abortion. We salute those who provide alternatives to abortion and offer adoption services, and we commend Congressional Republicans for expanding assistance to adopting families and for removing racial barriers to adoption.

Source: 2004 Republican Party Platform, p. 86

  • The above quotations are from 2004 Republican Party Platform: A Safer World and a More Hopeful America.

106 posted on 03/14/2005 3:01:28 PM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Rule One! No Poofters!)
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To: tcg

If the GOP runs a pro-abort, I'm writing in Pat Buchanan.


107 posted on 03/14/2005 3:04:41 PM PST by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: ex-snook
If the GOP runs a pro-abort...

...if they do, many pro-lifers will not vote for the "lesser of two evils" and the GOP will be dead in the water for the next generation. And a third party will finally be seen as a viable option for social (i.e., REAL) conservatives.

108 posted on 03/14/2005 3:47:10 PM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Rule One! No Poofters!)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

So you're saying I'm not allowed to post here?


109 posted on 03/14/2005 4:16:41 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy
No, just that you're an oxymaroon for thinking you are in the majority here as a pro-abort moderate, and that the rest of your snide comments make you look aweful foolish when you read the Free Republic's and the GOP's "party platform."
110 posted on 03/14/2005 4:33:32 PM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Rule One! No Poofters!)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

It doesn't matter what the party platform is. The candidate is the candidate. If you don't like it, don't vote for the Republican. But to think that will be a good thing for the Country is awfully (notice the spelling, please) foolish on your part. I am not PRO-ABORTION. I am pro-choice. And I hope the choice would be life.


111 posted on 03/14/2005 5:20:47 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy
But to think that will be a good thing for the Country is awfully

Of course, I never said that. It will be a bad thing for the country, and the GOP will have ONLY itself to blame.

I am not PRO-ABORTION. I am pro-choice.

More from the oxymaroon.

112 posted on 03/14/2005 5:26:40 PM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Rule One! No Poofters!)
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To: tcg
Given that the Secretary has NEVER shown any interest whatever in running for ANYTHING the point is moot. I await you finding us the correct candidate ... who I agree with 100%.

Please ping me ASAP when you do. Thank you.

113 posted on 03/14/2005 5:26:47 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Redneck from a red city, in a red county, in a red state, and a former Army Red Leg.)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

Oxymaroon? Is that supposed to be a word? An insult? How old are you?


114 posted on 03/14/2005 5:46:26 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Eternagon

"Could someone post a link to a site that has articles and papers by both sides of the abortion issue? I'm interested in philosophy-level debate only, which doesn't necessarily exclude theology."


http://apologetics.johndepoe.com/books.html

*The Unaborted Socrates by Peter Kreeft [b]
Three Approaches to Abortion: A Thoughtful and Compassionate Guide to Today's Most Controversial Issue by Peter Kreeft [i]
*Politically Correct Death: Answering the Arguments for Abortion Rights by Francis Beckwith [i]
Pro-Life 101: A Step-by-Step Guide to Making Your Case Persuasively by Scott Klusendorf [b]
*Precious Unborn Human Persons by Greg Koukl [b]
Prolife Answers to Prochoice Arguments by Randy Alcorn [b]

Plus anything you can find by Plantinga
*God, Freedom, & Evil by Alvin Plantinga [a]


115 posted on 03/14/2005 6:03:09 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it." ~ S. Wright)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
There is no perfect candidate. However, I think Senator Rick Santorum is an outstanding man with all the right committments.
116 posted on 03/14/2005 6:17:36 PM PST by tcg (TCG)
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To: Hildy
I am not PRO-ABORTION. I am pro-choice.

Where have I heard that before?....Oh, yeah:

"I have never met anyone who is pro-abortion. Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion."

"Indeed, abortions should be rare."

First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton
Remarks at NARAL Anniversary Luncheon
January 22, 1999


117 posted on 03/14/2005 6:27:55 PM PST by Gelato
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To: Gelato

Well, I agree with Hillary on that one. Sue me.


118 posted on 03/14/2005 6:30:51 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Well, I agree with Hillary on that one.

Indeed.

119 posted on 03/14/2005 6:35:44 PM PST by Gelato
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To: billybudd

That was my thought too.


120 posted on 03/14/2005 6:39:23 PM PST by kalee (Kalee's Tinfoil Bonnets, purveyor of stylish tinfoil millinery since 2000.)
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