Mildly Pro Choice?

Catholic Way ^ | 3/13/05 | Keith A. Fournier

[BykrBayb]

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc.

Statement by the founder of Free Republic:

[Cicero]

Single votes don't usually make a difference. But if the Republicans manage to offend religious voters by nominating a pro-abortion candidate, they will not lose single votes. They will lose a substantial part of the 15 million additional voters who turned out for Bush in 2004.

[oldbrowser]

If my single vote could decide the outcome, you might have a point. It won't, so you don't.

Your single vote could decide the outcome. It is not possible to know if it won't, so your statement is not valid.

[oldbrowser]

Then every vote for a third-party candidate also counts.

Every vote counts but in the end only one candidate will get elected. Your votes will either help or hinder the winning candidate. You personally will be partially responsible for the winning candidate.

[St. Johann Tetzel]

Thank you. I'll give you the last word in this fine academic debate.

[St. Johann Tetzel]

Just in case you missed post # 101:

Statement by the founder of Free Republic:

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc.

Get a life. You obviously are not in line with the principles of Free Republic, nor the mainstream of the GOP:

2004 Republican Party Platform: on Abortion

Promote adoption & abstinence, not abortion clinic referrals

We support the President's strong efforts to promote adoption through increased tax incentives and bonuses to states that place older children in permanent family homes, as well as his efforts to promote foster care by increasing the allocation of funds for preventive and family services.

Each year more than three million American teenagers contract sexually transmitted diseases, causing emotional harm and serious health consequences, even death. We support efforts to educate teens and parents about the health risks associated with early sexual activity and provide the tools needed to help teens make healthy choices. Abstinence from sexual activity is the only protection that is 100 percent effective against out-of-wedlock pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases, including sexually transmitted HIV/AIDS. Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We oppose school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related services for contraception and abortion.

Source: 2004 Republican Party Platform, p. 82-83

Human Life Amendment to the Constitution

We must keep our pledge to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence. That is why we say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make it clear that the 14th Amendment's protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

We oppose abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not include punitive action against women who have an abortion. We salute those who provide alternatives to abortion and offer adoption services, and we commend Congressional Republicans for expanding assistance to adopting families and for removing racial barriers to adoption.

Source: 2004 Republican Party Platform, p. 86

• The above quotations are from 2004 Republican Party Platform: A Safer World and a More Hopeful America.

[ex-snook]

If the GOP runs a pro-abort, I'm writing in Pat Buchanan.

[St. Johann Tetzel]

If the GOP runs a pro-abort...

...if they do, many pro-lifers will not vote for the "lesser of two evils" and the GOP will be dead in the water for the next generation. And a third party will finally be seen as a viable option for social (i.e., REAL) conservatives.

[Hildy]

So you're saying I'm not allowed to post here?

[St. Johann Tetzel]

No, just that you're an oxymaroon for thinking you are in the majority here as a pro-abort moderate, and that the rest of your snide comments make you look aweful foolish when you read the Free Republic's and the GOP's "party platform."

[Hildy]

It doesn't matter what the party platform is. The candidate is the candidate. If you don't like it, don't vote for the Republican. But to think that will be a good thing for the Country is awfully (notice the spelling, please) foolish on your part. I am not PRO-ABORTION. I am pro-choice. And I hope the choice would be life.

[St. Johann Tetzel]

But to think that will be a good thing for the Country is awfully

Of course, I never said that. It will be a bad thing for the country, and the GOP will have ONLY itself to blame.

I am not PRO-ABORTION. I am pro-choice.

More from the oxymaroon.

[HoustonCurmudgeon]

Given that the Secretary has NEVER shown any interest whatever in running for ANYTHING the point is moot. I await you finding us the correct candidate ... who I agree with 100%.

Please ping me ASAP when you do. Thank you.

[Hildy]

Oxymaroon? Is that supposed to be a word? An insult? How old are you?

[Matchett-PI]

"Could someone post a link to a site that has articles and papers by both sides of the abortion issue? I'm interested in philosophy-level debate only, which doesn't necessarily exclude theology."


http://apologetics.johndepoe.com/books.html

*The Unaborted Socrates by Peter Kreeft [b]
Three Approaches to Abortion: A Thoughtful and Compassionate Guide to Today's Most Controversial Issue by Peter Kreeft [i]
*Politically Correct Death: Answering the Arguments for Abortion Rights by Francis Beckwith [i]
Pro-Life 101: A Step-by-Step Guide to Making Your Case Persuasively by Scott Klusendorf [b]
*Precious Unborn Human Persons by Greg Koukl [b]
Prolife Answers to Prochoice Arguments by Randy Alcorn [b]

Plus anything you can find by Plantinga
*God, Freedom, & Evil by Alvin Plantinga [a]

[tcg]

There is no perfect candidate. However, I think Senator Rick Santorum is an outstanding man with all the right committments.

[Gelato]

I am not PRO-ABORTION. I am pro-choice.

Where have I heard that before?....Oh, yeah:

"I have never met anyone who is pro-abortion. Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion."

"Indeed, abortions should be rare."

First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton
Remarks at NARAL Anniversary Luncheon
January 22, 1999

[Hildy]

Well, I agree with Hillary on that one. Sue me.

[Gelato]

Well, I agree with Hillary on that one.

Indeed.

[kalee]

That was my thought too.