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Wal-Mart off the school-supply list
Deborah Bach ^ | 3/11/05 | Deborah Bach

Posted on 03/11/2005 6:02:26 AM PST by traderrob6

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To: Abby4116

"Scissors? A little girl in Philadelphia was taken by the police for having the scissors in school that the teacher had listed on the school supply list. Zero tolerance was cited."

Zero-tolerance = zero-thought


81 posted on 03/11/2005 8:05:13 AM PST by Frank L
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To: marlon

LOL! So true!


82 posted on 03/11/2005 8:08:02 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: redhead
The other day I heard a caller to a local talk radio show complaining about the minimum wage (after both Senate versions of the increase failed). She whined that she had to drive 2-1/2 hours to work each way and could barely make ends meet on her minimum wage job, and then wailed repeatedly that she couldn't afford to eat at the Olive Garden, like she assumed the show's host did (because he's wealthy). She also said she could afford only bread and milk, no other food. These were her reasons for demanding an increase in the minimum wage, of course.

He responded that he wasn't aware that eating at the Olive Garden was some measure of financial success. I wish he had asked her why the heck she wasn't looking for a job closer to home (especially considering the price of gasoline), or look for a better-paying job anywhere? When she complained about the cost of bread and milk, he should have told her to stop doing her grocery shopping at the 7-Eleven.

Darn, I should be on the radio.

83 posted on 03/11/2005 8:12:20 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: traderrob6

Why does a teachers union have any authority over purchasing school materials with government tax dollars?

If I were on the school board I'd require that the teachers buy items from the lower priced store, and fire teachers that refused to do so.

Tax dollars for schools should be diverted to push for a union's goals.


84 posted on 03/11/2005 8:16:19 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: HungarianGypsy

I know! It takes a while, but I check every tag on every item (unless I've bought it previously, but even then one should check) I buy. I hate the thought of the prison-slaves making all this "stuff" for us capitalist running dogs.

I always get excited when I find "Made in USA" on stuff. The sales people think I'm a wack job sometimes.. oh well.. maybe they are right!


85 posted on 03/11/2005 8:17:05 AM PST by Vor Lady
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To: steampower

Apology accepted. I admire your business ethics. I agree about President Bush. I hope the Lord continues to give him wisdom to run this country.


86 posted on 03/11/2005 8:18:50 AM PST by Vor Lady
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To: traderrob6
It's not a question of a "fair wage" but more of having only legal workers in the US to compete for jobs. Get rid of the millions of illegal aliens and wages would go up.
87 posted on 03/11/2005 8:21:29 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: MudPuppy
Public education is far from Free....

Not that it ever has been free, mind you... but point taken.

88 posted on 03/11/2005 8:22:17 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: HungarianGypsy

HungarianGypsy wrote:

"This is a serious question that I would like answered. If we no longer bought things from China who would suffer the most? Those higher up or the slave labor we are trying to protect in the first place? I would really appreciate insight on this, since I have asked it many times with no answer. Thanks!"

I wish I had a black and white way to answer your question.The news from China is very disturbing. They seem to care little for environmental concerns. China is evidently putting alot of its money and resources into its military buildup. They can use North Korea like a hired gun. They may soon move on Taiwan, and a shoving match with Japan has already begun. But the average Chinese person is just like you or I, trying to stay alive and have a little joy in the doing. It sure doesn't seem right to deprive them of a chance for a better life. What a bummer!

If only we could reform the greedy folks, be they commie bureaucrats, or capitalist captains of industry who imagine that their time is worth infinetely more than any person's who works with their hands. And I'm not so naive to think that labor unions are the answer to all the working person's problems.

My answer then is this:

Life requires a balancing of opposing forces, wishes, needs...and we must work to ensure that neither side gains the upper hand permanently. So, while we buy goods made in China, we need to apply increasing pressure against their government to force them to spend less resources on their military and more to raise the standard of living of the Chinese people. They must change their monetary policies, or else...


89 posted on 03/11/2005 8:22:42 AM PST by steampower
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To: steampower
we need to apply increasing pressure against their government to force them to spend less resources on their military and more to raise the standard of living of the Chinese people.

You can do that by severing their US markets; forcing them to use their capital capicity to develop their own internal marketplace. The people once empowered will do the rest.
90 posted on 03/11/2005 8:32:03 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Grannyx4
If they had, it might have just given my parents more reasons to be irresponsible, ie. if the teachers will clothe and feed her, we can spend more on gambling.

It's possible, but I think you give parents too much credit for rationality. The kind who send their kids off to school without lunch/lunch money are so utterly self-absorbed that I don't think it makes a whit of difference if a perceptive teacher helps the kid. They'll not notice anyway. Gambling/alcohol/crack/whatever else the parents do will take their undivided attention.

91 posted on 03/11/2005 8:34:16 AM PST by jude24 (The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.)
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To: traderrob6
These people are so myopic and naive, it's really hard to believe they were sharp enough to obtain a degree.

Education degrees are generally recognized as the easiest of all degrees to obtain. Teacher colleges are not really about training people how to teach but about indoctrinating the would be teachers into educational theories that promote collectivism and "feel-goodism".

Richard Mitchell talking about what teacher colleges do to their students:

Incipient schoolteachers --I have known hundreds of them--are generally decent young people of average intelligence. Some are stupid, of course, and some rarer few are brilliant. Almost all of them seem a bit more than ordinarily ethical, and I can't believe that any one of them ever decided to be a teacher for the sake of doing harm. Furthermore, the task of teaching a mind to work well is not a particularly difficult one. Teachers do not have to be brilliant, although they probably shouldn't be stupid. In short, almost all of those who seek to be teachers are quite capable of being good teachers, but something happens to them on the way to the classroom. They fall into bad company. -- The Graves Of Academe

Cross Lucy Ricardo and Karl Marx and you have a pretty good model of many a teacher -- daft and doctrinaire.

92 posted on 03/11/2005 8:45:50 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant
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To: superiorslots
" Our local china mart pays minimum wage to start. I know 3 people who work there and they are between 6.50 and 7.00 pr hour full time".

Walmart fudges their average hourly wage because they include higher up floor type managers pay into the calculation which brings up the average pay number."

Probably they do, but so does every other corporation, and some of them are much more highly creative at squeezing the numbers upward. The starting wage at our local Wal.mart is over $7/hr which is better than Target and all the grocery chains.

93 posted on 03/11/2005 9:00:40 AM PST by cookcounty (LooneyLibLine: "The ONLY reason for Operation Iraqi FREEDOM was WMD!!" ((repeat til brain is numb))
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To: jude24

I was only giving MY parents credit for behavior I had observed in them. They both felt that the 'government' owed them something; any money that came their way through what ever source they felt was their just due. If I'd have come home with a new coat, my step-father would have noticed; potential pawn material.


94 posted on 03/11/2005 9:01:57 AM PST by Vor Lady
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To: Grannyx4
If I'd have come home with a new coat, my step-father would have noticed; potential pawn material.

I hadn't thought of that possiblity...

95 posted on 03/11/2005 9:05:11 AM PST by jude24 (The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.)
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To: ARCADIA

How would you go about severing China's US markets?

If done abruptly the empty shelves in so many stores, not to mention the probable cessation of our exports of raw materials would produce more than a bump for our economy. The backlash from consumers and industry against any such action would be immediate and intense.

What's your plan?


96 posted on 03/11/2005 9:05:13 AM PST by steampower
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To: jude24

You are too right about some parents being self-absorbed. I had earned $600 for my first year of college (in the 70's state college wasn't out of reach)which my step-father "borrowed". Needless to say, I ran out of money after the first term, went to work full time, went to class full time, and didn't study(I needed to sleep). I managed to pay off my college bills about the time I was suspended for bad grades. My hat is off to anyone who can go to school full time and work full time. I have since learned I could have worked smarter, but when one is 17 one is 'so smart'. Someday I hope to go back and finish, of course, I'll probably be the oldest freshman ever.


97 posted on 03/11/2005 9:11:49 AM PST by Vor Lady
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To: marlon

.....this tactic gives teachers a bad name.....


98 posted on 03/11/2005 9:11:53 AM PST by smiley
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To: HungarianGypsy
Exactly! When I lived in CT I used to go to a consignment store in Greenwich and got new/almost new designer clothes for a fraction of the retail price. One time I got a brand new (tags still attached) Ralph Lauren wool suit for $45. I had to have the skirt taken in ($8) - so for $53 I got a suit that retailed for about $250.....not a bad deal. I still shop consignment.....great wardrobe at a fraction of the cost of new!

And my "self-esteem" is greatly enhanced knowing I look wonderful at a fraction of the cost....LOL

99 posted on 03/11/2005 9:18:35 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: MudPuppy

Did you ever wonder what the ziploc bags were for? I could never figure that one out. I sent them in and never saw them again.


100 posted on 03/11/2005 9:23:18 AM PST by bizeemommie
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