Iwo Jima - A stupid Mistake?

LA TImes ^ | March 10, 2005 | Max Boot

[Diplomat]

That's an obviously too low figure, but the "1 million US dead" figure from an invasion is equally bogus

I think the history or military channel had a very good analysis of this and I believe their best estimate is around 300,000 to 400,000 American casualties and 2 million plus Japanese casualitied. I actually believe it would have been more given that the Japanese military planners fortified all the southern beaches exactly where our military planners had decided the beach heads would be established and the routes north through the main small southern island of Japan. The Japanese were no dummies, they looked at it from the perspective of where would I invade if we were them (the Americans). Again, when our military people went through this area after the war, they were amazed at the level of prepareness that the Japanese had put into homeland defense and knew for sure that the two atomic bombs saved more of their and our lives than they killed.

[Seydlitz]

WOW! You mean this long-serving CIA field operative, who wrote a book about his exploits for profit, isn't seeking glory and publicity?

Naturally, Ollie has no interest in profit, with his syndicated talk shows, book tours, television appearences, etc...Take a gander at Rodriguez's description of his dealings with North before you judge.

Maybe you should try to read "Blue's Bastards". It was written by a former enlisted Marine that served with LtCol North in Vietnam.

Which is exactly why I said that North deserves credit for his military service.

[Seydlitz]

But to say a Naval Academy graduate, career Marine, former NSC member, founder of the Freedom Alliance, TV commentator, and author (multiple times) is dumb, well...

That resume is almost identical to that of Jimmy Carter. What's your point?

[RaceBannon]

But to say a Naval Academy graduate, career Marine, former NSC member, founder of the Freedom Alliance, TV commentator, and author (multiple times) is dumb, well...

That resume is almost identical to that of Jimmy Carter. What's your point?


Carter is not a Former Marine, he was a Navy officer, whom Hyram Rickover called mediocre.

Carter never served on the National Security Council

Carter's only contribution to humanity was to build houses, a project that liberals were already involved in, he just copied it

Carter sold out the Shah, leading to the Iranian Revolution:
http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/id24.html

Carter's ineptness got us North Korean Nukes

Carter's ineptness got us called fools for years, and all he did that looked manly was defend himself against a killer rabbit.

Please, comparing Jimmy Carter to Ollie North is astronomically stupid, especially for someone who is supposed to be from Michigan Law School and one other Law School...

Follow some good advice: When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

[malia]

This discussion is way over my head - but - now knowing how Dan Rather shaped the news to fit his agenda makes me wonder about what is supposed to be 'history'.

[shellshocked]

This seems like a hit piece against our efforts in Iraq by trying to undermine our confidence in one of the costliest and necessary battles in the WWII Pacific Theater, as if to say Iraq is also unnecessary.

[investigateworld]

All democrat started wars (WWII, VIETNAM, KOREA, KOSOVO...
You forgot Wilson and WWI. Probably some earlier also.


Which is why this grandfather of 4 males works his fanny off to keep the b*st*rds out of office.
God bless them all.

[clintonh8r]

But don't forget...Jimmuh Cawtuh once beat off (heh, heh) an attack wabbit....

[Polybius]

Approximately 2,220 B-29 bombers made emergency landings at Iwo Jima. At 11 airmen per B-29, that adds up to 24,420 airmen saved by the taking of that island.

[Nitro]

Race,

The Japanese were told that to become a US Marine...

a man had to kill his parents.

The power of America is exactly opposite......

parents who raise a man who is willing to fight and die for his country.

They wanted to die with pride, we were totally happy to kill them with greater pride.

Even the last man in an American mission will go forward and attempt to complete the mission!!

That is why we rule!!!

[DJ Taylor]

"All democrat started wars (WWII, VIETNAM, KOREA, KOSOVO...
You forgot Wilson and WWI. Probably some earlier also."


Hmm, come to think of it, Jefferson Davis was a Democrat too.

[investigateworld]

Your a brave one DJ to bring up that 'late unpleasantness' on this forum. (But your right)

[JudgemAll]

It is easy to criticize after the facts. Nowadays the trend I thought was to criticize overestimating terror and WMD in Iraq

[JudgemAll]

I wonder if he would say that at LA times about Stalingrad

[RaceBannon]

The defense or the attack? :)

[Coop]

That resume is almost identical to that of Jimmy Carter. What's your point?

You bring Jimmy Carter onto the thread, and you ask me what my point is? I guess they don't require logic courses in the Ivy League?