Posted on 03/10/2005 5:51:34 AM PST by Crackingham
The Mount Soledad cross must go, the San Diego City Council said yesterday.
The 16-year saga of whether the cross would stay on public land in La Jolla came to an emotional conclusion last night as the council voted 5-3 to reject a last-ditch effort to keep it in place.
The vote capped a six-hour public hearing that attracted 350 people, most of them Christians who urged the council to donate the cross and surrounding land to the federal government so it possibly could remain where it has stood since 1954.
But the cross now must be moved to comply with an injunction forbidding its presence on public land. Federal Judge Gordon Thompson Jr. issued the injunction in 1991, when he ruled that the cross violated the state Constitution's guarantee of separation between church and state. Thompson had left it to the city and the lawyers in the case to resolve the matter.
In the latest court decision in the case, a panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in 2002 that the constitutional violation still existed when it struck down the city's second attempt to sell the land to a private buyer.
"This is definitely the first page of the final chapter, and I don't expect the final chapter to last another five years," lawyer James McElroy said last night. "I think we are at the end of the line here."
McElroy represents Philip Paulson, one of two atheists who filed the original lawsuit against the city in 1989.
He said attorneys for the city as well as the group that maintains the cross and Paulson will meet soon to finalize plans for when and where to move the cross, which stands 29 feet tall on top of a 5-foot-high base. McElroy said he would call the City Attorney's Office today, and that the cross could be moved within 90 days.
Why doesn't someone just go up there and burn it; a final irony.
Unbelievable. The stupid judge can't even get it right. It is a separation of the POWERS of church and state.
The Nazi were actually quite religious
Pass the word to as many Christians as possible.
Los Angeles should be changed to LOS DIABLOS....
I have never, in 55 years, seen the haters of God so active and overt in their attacks on Christianity in this country. It is time to take back our country.
Some google results for "mt. davidson cross"...
http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/sfcross7.htm
http://www.ancsf.org/pressreleases/2004/01232004.htm
Isn't that like restricting, say the discussion of abortion, to only to premenopausal women?
Rights are rights.
Smokers and nonsmokers should join against unfair taxes. Issues of privacy concern the rich and the poor. Etc. etc.
I have sent emails to both of Tennessee's Senators, Frist and Alexander, and to the White House.
Keep the pressure on!
Does anyone have an email address for Attorney McElroy?
Here is his business address and phone number:
McElroy James E Law Offices of Atty
(619) 232-6686
625 Broadway
San Diego, CA 92101
Another case this scumbag McElroy was involved in:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35105
Nice work. Pass the word.
Not the armed ones!!!!!
Christians have the passion to get this done......
The San Diego City Council has a bad track record in siding with the ACLU:
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/pages/NEWS/newspage.asp?story=1516
>> Yes they will start to arrest Christians...and then Kill them That is what the bible says the future holds... <<
The Lord is with us and will sustain us in times of peril:
1 Corinthians 10:13
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Christians are being killed in the ME daily. There was a preacher in Canada who was arrested for peaching against homosexuality. Christians will be jailed and murdered in the name of tolerance. It is happening all around us this very minute. It will get worse.
The left says we should be 'tolerant' of others but what they really want is 'acceptance'. A good friend of mine and I were talking about this before church last Sunday.
Just look at the definitions:
Main Entry: tol·er·ance
Pronunciation: 'tä-l&-r&n(t)s, 'täl-r&n(t)s
Function: noun
1 : capacity to endure pain or hardship : ENDURANCE, FORTITUDE, STAMINA
2 a : sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with one's own b : the act of allowing something : TOLERATION
3 : the allowable deviation from a standard; especially : the range of variation permitted in maintaining a specified dimension in machining a piece
4 a (1) : the capacity of the body to endure or become less responsive to a substance (as a drug) or a physiological insult with repeated use or exposure [immunological tolerance to a virus] [an addict's increasing tolerance for a drug] (2) : relative capacity of an organism to grow or thrive when subjected to an unfavorable environmental factor b : the maximum amount of a pesticide residue that may lawfully remain on or in food
Main Entry: ac·cep·tance
Pronunciation: ik-'sep-t&n(t)s, ak-
Function: noun
1 : an agreeing either expressly or by conduct to the act or offer of another so that a contract is concluded and the parties become legally bound
2 : the quality or state of being accepted or acceptable
3 : the act of accepting : the fact of being accepted : APPROVAL
4 a : the act of accepting a time draft or bill of exchange for payment when due according to the specified terms b : an accepted draft or bill of exchange
5 : ACCEPTATION 2
There's a BIG difference between tolerance and acceptance. I have to tolerate this pervasive EVIL that is all around me, but I WILL NOT ACCEPT IT.
OMG!!!!
Just found this article written by Philip Paulson:
http://www.godless.org/eth/Soledad.html
Be patient my friend. Satan's minions and the ACLU will get to all of those in due time.
'Vengence is mine, sayeth the Lord'--the Bible.
Does the state have an explicit forbing of practicing religion on any state property or it is an excercise clause?
Freedom from religion vs Freedom of religion.
Too many judges have black robe fever and see themselves as "god".
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