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Now, wait! Which law enforcement agency does the ACLU represent...hmmmm!?

If the Minuteman Project volunteers violate the law or someone's civil rights, it is up to law enforcement to see it and deal with it. The ACLU and its observers are NOT part of any law enforcement agency. Therefore, by their own definition, the ACLU observers are vigilantes themselves. The ACLU now has no right to complain about the MMP coming to Cochise County to observe and report lawbreakers to the proper authorities when the ACLU itself is sending people to Cochise County to observe and report potential lawbreakers.

1 posted on 03/09/2005 1:15:12 PM PST by Spiff
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2 posted on 03/09/2005 1:16:47 PM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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No doubt the ACLU is aching to do a smear job on the MMP. Those good folks will have to watch their backs on all sides.


3 posted on 03/09/2005 1:18:34 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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I have great respect for people willing to take action to protect our borders. May God Bless them.


4 posted on 03/09/2005 1:18:47 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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Boy, it would be a damn shame if some of those ACLU city folks got lost out there in that big ol' desert. A damn shame!


5 posted on 03/09/2005 1:19:04 PM PST by SpyGuy (Liberalism is slow societal suicide. And screw political correctness: Islam is the Religion of Death)
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"By following the volunteers, the ACLU of Arizona is putting those involved in the Minuteman Project on notice that the violation of the civil rights of "migrants" will not be accepted, Ybarra said."

Seems to me if the Minutemen are on private property then the ACLU folks will be trespassing and subject to arrest.


7 posted on 03/09/2005 1:20:11 PM PST by politicalwit (Republican and Democrats are across the aisle but sleep in the same bed.)
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[co-organizer of the Minuteman Project Chris] Simcox said the ACLU observers can walk along with the volunteers and sit with them. The more presence there is, the bigger the message will be to illegal immigrants, Simcox said. "It will create more of a deterrent," he said.

Once the ACLU fully comprehends this fact and notices that the "weapons" of the MM Project are cell phones and walkie-talkies, they'll bail pretty quickly.

8 posted on 03/09/2005 1:20:45 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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The more people the illegals see, the more likely they are to turn and run...

In the days of clinic sit ins, we used to use the pro-aborts who tried to keep the clinics open to our advantage-- it looked like a giant clusterfudge to women trying to get into the clinic -- it turned about 99% of them away..

Same thing will happen...

Maybe the minutemen should post giant (ie, 5x5 signs) on wooden posts with warnings that immigration officers are in the area and will arrest those trying to get across.


9 posted on 03/09/2005 1:21:42 PM PST by 1stFreedom (1)
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Can we allow the illegals to stay and deport the ACLU guys? At least most of the illegals are willing to do an honest days work... the same can't be said for the ACLU.

(/sarcasm)


14 posted on 03/09/2005 1:24:22 PM PST by E. V. Republitarian MD
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If the ACLU is against this....uh.....
15 posted on 03/09/2005 1:27:02 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To Ybarra, the Minuteman Project volunteers are dangerous.

Dangerous to the goals of the Aztlan gang, that is.

20 posted on 03/09/2005 1:29:34 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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My initial reaction to this story was predictable, but it looks like the ACLU crowd have shot themselves in the foot again. These folks are, as the ACLU admits, going to be sitting in lawn chairs. They're going to be hanging around and watching, and then calling the authorities.

In other words, the ACLU now has a problem with people who see something illegal going on calling the authorities.

I wonder if they will be alerting the people in the rest of the country that they'd better think twice about calling the police if they observe a crime happening ala Kitty Genovese...or gay bashing...or rape. Don't call when you see something illegal--THINK FIRST! The ACLU will be inspecting you!

As the man in the article points out, the more people there, the bigger a bunch the illegals will see; the more false (or even true) charges the ACLU makes, the more TV time this issue gets. And frankly it isn't a BAD thing to keep possibly edgy people from going off on some illegal, either.

A win-win situation.

22 posted on 03/09/2005 1:31:06 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ( writing stream of consciousness posts like a post-modern prometheus)
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Good! I hope there are "counter-protesters" there too. The more the more publicity.


25 posted on 03/09/2005 1:35:36 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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By following the volunteers, the ACLU of Arizona is putting those involved in the Minuteman Project on notice that the violation of the civil rights of "migrants" will not be accepted, Ybarra said.

Apparently Ybarra doesn't think that the participants in the Minuteman project have rights either, such as freedom of association.

29 posted on 03/09/2005 1:44:59 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To Ybarra, the Minuteman Project volunteers are dangerous. "The vigilantes are symbolic of the fear and misunderstanding that exists in our society," he said.

I guess Neighborhood Watch groups should come under ACLU scrutiny as well.

The ACLU no longer represents anything but liberal political interests.

31 posted on 03/09/2005 1:46:58 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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I am sure they will be very Welcome when the ACLU communists identify themselves.


32 posted on 03/09/2005 1:48:47 PM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods.)
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Anyone wanting to join the fun can get further information at http://www.minutemanproject.com/


36 posted on 03/09/2005 1:50:41 PM PST by BubbaGOP
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Now we need a group out there to keep an eye on the ACLU... and someone to watch that group. And some more to watch them! Perhaps if there were enough people milling around on the border watching one another, they would scare off the illegals!

It... could... WORK!

37 posted on 03/09/2005 1:54:25 PM PST by Redcloak (More cleverly arranged 1's and 0's)
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>>"The migration by our southern neighbors is not an invasion," Ybarra counted.<<

Ybarra seems intent that everything must be done under the legal standards. Why not call him and tell him where the closest legal Points of Entry are so that he can pass it on to the illegal migrants who refuse to use these Points.


39 posted on 03/09/2005 2:02:04 PM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Cochise County, Arizona.)
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The ACLU, the MMP, the BP, illegal aliens, coyotes, and probably a few Federales, all being watched by the media along the Arizona-Mexico Border... sounds liike the Perfect Storm.
40 posted on 03/09/2005 2:06:30 PM PST by Fatalis
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Any word when PETA, FAIR, ALF, and the Gay and Lesbian Alliance are showing up in Arizona?

The Minutemen sure are getting a lotta folks' attention.

42 posted on 03/09/2005 2:49:57 PM PST by F16Fighter
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