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To: ancient_geezer

i really liked the last part. everybody should pay taxes, nobody should be exempt. and the only fair way is to tax ALL income at the same rate.


287 posted on 03/08/2005 12:36:05 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: camle

and the only fair way is to tax ALL income at the same rate.

I will disagree on the fairness of taxing the income of anyone myself. Income should never be taxed as it places to much power over the individual and free markets into the hands of government.

 

"As a matter of fact, what the income tax does — and this is the debate that I think we always try to get into in order to let you and him fight, see — and the people of this country are led down a path where the actual control of their resources, which in the end is the control over their will, is handed off to the government."

. . .

"The government then manipulates that will in order to destroy the freedom of our electoral system through the income tax structure, and we call the resulting slavery a free system."

"In point of fact, it is not as the founders understood, and the only way to restore real freedom is to give people back control over the income that they earn so that they won‘t, at the voting booth and in other phony issues, be subject to that manipulation."

- KEYES TRANSCRIPT (01/28/02)

 

To allow government that much control over the property of the individual and intrusion into family financial privacy walks far outside the bounds of the foundational principles of this nation.

 

There was good reason why Karl Marx and the Communist Party makes the progressive/graduated income tax the 2nd plank of the Manifesto of the Communist Party, by Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, published in 1848. We should never forget nor overlook the philosophical underpinnings of that choice:

"The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the state ... . Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property ... . These measures will, of course, be different in different countries. Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in he hands of the state.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. "

And it was on these principles that the 16th amendment ratified, and the nations income tax system rests.

It is far past time to end the income tax in this nation of any kind, round, flat, or square. An income tax is an anathema to a free people.

359 posted on 03/08/2005 3:36:59 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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