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To: toddst; appeal2; Squawk 8888; BurbankKarl; Paleo Conservative; conservatism_IS_compassion
He was entirely within the FAA's own regulations. Here is the Federal Aviation Regulation (FAR) 121.563 dealing with inflight engine out procedures:
(a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, whenever an engine of an airplane fails or whenever the rotation of an engine is stopped to prevent possible damage, the pilot in command shall land the airplane at the nearest suitable airport, in point of time, at which a safe landing can be made.

(b) If not more than one engine of an airplane that has three or more engines fails or its rotation is stopped, the pilot in command may proceed to an airport that he selects if, after considering the following, he decides that proceeding to that airport is as safe as landing at the nearest suitable airport:

(1) The nature of the malfunction and the possible mechanical difficulties that may occur if flight is continued.

(2) The altitude, weight, and usable fuel at the time of engine stoppage.

(3) The weather conditions en route and at possible landing points.

(4) The air traffic congestion.

(5) The kind of terrain.

(6) His familiarity with the airport to be used.

(c) The pilot in command shall report each stoppage of engine rotation in flight to the appropriate ground radio station as soon as practicable and shall keep that station fully informed of the progress of the flight.

(d) If the pilot in command lands at an airport other than the nearest suitable airport, in point of time, he or she shall (upon completing the trip) send a written report, in duplicate, to his or her director of operations stating the reasons for determining that the selection of an airport, other than the nearest airport, was as safe a course of action as landing at the nearest suitable airport. The director of operations shall, within 10 days after the pilot returns to his or her home base, send a copy of this report with the director of operation's comments to the certificate-holding district office.

[Doc. No. 6258, 29 FR 19219, Dec. 31, 1964, as amended by Amdt. 121-207, 54 FR 39293, Sept. 25, 1989; Amdt. 121-253, 61 FR 2614, Jan. 26, 1996]

28 posted on 03/07/2005 5:28:12 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

He didn't land at the airport he was aiming for....so his decision process was flawed.

I bet they have tapes of them talking about how much it would have cost to delay the passengers.


32 posted on 03/07/2005 5:31:31 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: FreedomCalls

And I was under the impression that "inflight" meant at cruising altitude...not during take off with stuff showering down on the ramp workers.


34 posted on 03/07/2005 5:32:44 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: FreedomCalls
Thanks again for bringing some sanity and logic to the return of this discussion...not that it will change anyone's minds...strike that, make that "anyone's emotions".

Nonetheless, it's helpful to quote the FAA's own regs. Even or especially when they can't seem to remember them.

40 posted on 03/07/2005 5:39:49 PM PST by GBA
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To: FreedomCalls

I understand your point that proceeding as filed was not entirely reckless, however the fact that they had to declare a fuel emergency shows that at minimum, they made an error in judgement about their range. They should have been aware far sooner that they would need a closer alternate.


156 posted on 03/08/2005 6:22:22 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (End dependence on foreign oil- put a Slowpoke in your basement)
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To: FreedomCalls
In all cases nearest suitable airport is key, and that means landing as soon as practical, not as a soon as possible. The regs are not supporting flying half-way around the world with a failed engine. It is saying you find an airport that is suitable and land.
161 posted on 03/08/2005 8:05:25 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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