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To: ariamne

"I'd be happy to respond, ..."

Please do, Fred points to books about Muhammod most of the time, not to the koran itself.


203 posted on 03/07/2005 7:43:22 AM PST by RS (just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: RS; ariamne
Let me help you out a little, ari.

Quran - 033.016:
YUSUFALI: Say: "Running away will not profit you if ye are running away from death or slaughter; and even if (ye do escape), no more than a brief (respite) will ye be allowed to enjoy!"
PICKTHAL: "Say: Flight will not avail you if ye flee from death or killing, and then ye dwell in comfort but a little while."

Quran - 008.012:
YUSUFALI: "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
PICKTHAL: "When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger."

Quran - 033.026
YUSUFALI: "And those of the People of the Book who aided them - Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts. (So that) some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners.
PICKTHAL: "And He brought those of the People of the Scripture who supported them down from their strongholds, and cast panic into their hearts. Some ye slew, and ye made captive some."

Need more?

208 posted on 03/07/2005 10:27:57 AM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: RS; Fred Nerks; All

Sorry, I'm a little behind my response time here, I'm at work today and may have to flesh out responses with more detail tonight when I have more time.

Ok RS,on Freddie's initial post, which I copied and pasted in my post, I was referring to the last line, but I do agree with her entire statement, and if you can wait till after work, I will respond to you directly. I have to keep my posts a little brief here, but I'm sure others who don't have the same time constraints can help you out with the Koran's statements on infidels. As for your objections to Freddie's sources, you will have to take them up with her directly.


216 posted on 03/07/2005 10:48:25 AM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: RS; Fred Nerks; All

Sorry, I'm a little behind my response time here, I'm at work today and may have to flesh out responses with more detail tonight when I have more time.

Ok RS,on Freddie's initial post, which I copied and pasted in my post, I was referring to the last line, but I do agree with her entire statement, and if you can wait till after work, I will respond to you directly. I have to keep my posts a little brief here, but I'm sure others who don't have the same time constraints can help you out with the Koran's statements on infidels. As for your objections to Freddie's sources, you will have to take them up with her directly.


217 posted on 03/07/2005 10:48:25 AM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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