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Break in Jersey City Case - Murder of Coptic Family
WABC News | 03/03/05 | Jim Dolan

Posted on 03/03/2005 2:03:22 PM PST by CaptainK

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To: CaptainK
Heard that the bank was not cooperative at first on releasing their surveillance tapes.

Waiting for more details.

21 posted on 03/03/2005 2:35:30 PM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: CaptainK; CyberAnt; Fatuncle

They've known since very shortly after the murders that someone use the victim's ATM card. There are no bank records which can show the identity of an unauthorized person who used a card. The security videos can be helpful, but they're often blurry, and if you cover your face the ATM still works, so there may not be any face visible in the video. Even if there is, you then have to figure out who the face belongs to -- most people don't have their names printed on their foreheads.


22 posted on 03/03/2005 2:36:22 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: r9etb
So true.... It points out the fundamental problem with bigotry: it makes people blind to possible (and likely) answers.

Yeah, it was really fueled by some local copts themselves, IIRC. The "torture," which was not "Islamic" as people tried to interpret, might have been to force out the ATM codes.

Naturally we haven't heard the whole story.

23 posted on 03/03/2005 2:36:40 PM PST by Shermy
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To: GovernmentShrinker

"most people don't have their names printed on their foreheads"


NOOOOOOO! Who told you that lie ..??


24 posted on 03/03/2005 2:39:09 PM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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To: America's Resolve; Siamese Princess; gidget7; quidnunc; fastattacksailor; broadsword; Fred Nerks; ..

bump


25 posted on 03/03/2005 2:39:09 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Shermy

I'm still curious to see if there was a connection with the family member that was doing translations for the Stewart case.


26 posted on 03/03/2005 2:42:38 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: bvw

Tenant could have been any religion as far as we know now. If Muslim, and he did it, it may have nothing to do with religion, or if it did it could be in the sectarian Northern Ireland type of animosities rather than some grand jihadist, Islamist, whatever inspiration.

Could just be nuts.


27 posted on 03/03/2005 2:43:06 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Calpernia

"I'm still curious to see if there was a connection with the family member that was doing translations for the Stewart case."

Indeed, that was a curious connection.


28 posted on 03/03/2005 2:44:00 PM PST by Shermy
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Last article posted about this said they finally had a license plate number from the cameras.


29 posted on 03/03/2005 2:44:06 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: TexasCowboy

Pinging TC.......


30 posted on 03/03/2005 2:46:42 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Redneck from a red city, in a red county, in a red state, and a former Red Leg.)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/wabc_030305_familykilled.html MORE INFO HERE


31 posted on 03/03/2005 2:48:47 PM PST by ElisabethInCincy
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To: Shermy

Do you hear the dogs barking? -- Conan Doyle


32 posted on 03/03/2005 2:51:37 PM PST by bvw (Team USA!)
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To: bvw

Certainly from what I remember reading more than one perpetrator almost certainly was involved.


33 posted on 03/03/2005 2:53:03 PM PST by Shermy
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To: ElisabethInCincy

Thanks


Eyewitness News reporter Anthony Johnson joins us live from Jersey City with the latest.


Images From The Ongoing Story
According to two sources very close to the investigation, the FBI has picked up a suspect they believe my have some ties to the murders of a Coptic Christian family in Jersey City.


Video: Latest from The Investigators on Theories in the Murders
The man appears to be a former tenant of the family's home. According to out source the possible suspect was picked up this morning on Charles Street and is now being interrogated by the FBI, and he is giving them valuable information on the crime. But he claims he is not the killer.

The family was murdered on January 14th in their home on Oakland Avenue. Hossam Armonious, his wife Amal Garrus and their two daughters - fifteen-year-old Sylvia and 8-year-old Monica, had been bound and gagged, and their throats had been cut.

The crime sent shock waves through the community and many thought it may have been religious retaliation because the family was outspoken about their Christian views and may have made enemies in the Islamic community.

But now the motive appears to be robbery. That point came to light when Eyewitness News investigative reporter Sarah Wallace learned that a suspect had used Hossam Armonious' ATM card on several occasions after the murder.

Police are currently looking for another accomplice in this case, and they are executing more search warrants. One police official close to this investigation called this a very big break in this crime.


34 posted on 03/03/2005 2:53:47 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: nuconvert
An American judge found her parent killed a couple days ago. This judge was working on a white supremacist case? As I am watching the national news, and Inside Edition programs all reporting the connection WITHOUT ANY PROOF OR MENTION OF POTENTIAL "ROBERY" MOTIVE! That is a hell of a difference between the reporting on the Armanious family in Jersey City that was SLAUGHTERED by our enemy - the Islamic fanatics! The White Supremacists are not in a constant war against the US as the Jihadists, but, still the PC world of the liberal press always avoid offending the Muslim fanatics.
35 posted on 03/03/2005 2:53:50 PM PST by conservlib
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To: bvw; CaptainK

From #31 link:


"...The man appears to be a former tenant of the family's home. According to out source the possible suspect was picked up this morning on Charles Street and is now being interrogated by the FBI, and he is giving them valuable information on the crime. But he claims he is not the killer..."

What's Charles Street like? Seedy? Early report, but not detained at home or work apparently.


36 posted on 03/03/2005 2:56:15 PM PST by Shermy
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To: conservlib

Robery was probably mentioned in this case because the ATM card has been used ever since 2 days AFTER the murder.

They only recently got a license plate in the last ATM use.


37 posted on 03/03/2005 2:58:56 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: conservlib

words of advice.....don't watch Inside Edition for news. It's an entertainment show.


38 posted on 03/03/2005 2:59:18 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: CaptainK

Fart towards Mecca Alert.


39 posted on 03/03/2005 3:00:50 PM PST by mowkeka
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; nw_arizona_granny; Eaker; Alouette; free_european; backhoe; broadsword; ...
"He claims he is innocent"

I think that's what Lee Harvey Oswald said, too, and we all know he was guilty, don't we?

40 posted on 03/03/2005 3:01:10 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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