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Army misses recruiting goal
USA TODAY ^ | Thu Mar 3, 6:30 AM ET | Dave Moniz

Posted on 03/03/2005 10:31:20 AM PST by Righty_McRight

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To: An Old Marine

My father lost two cousins on Guadalcanal.


41 posted on 03/03/2005 11:40:09 AM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: RasterMaster

The reason why I got out in 2002 after 22 years in service was because I could no longer keep up with guys half my age. I was, therefore, a liability to the unit. The true test of a warrior is to know when he must turn the reins over to the next generation. Anything else is just ego and misplaced testosterone talking.


42 posted on 03/03/2005 11:40:19 AM PST by Archangelsk (There is nothing more cowardly than a keyboard warrior.)
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To: Righty_McRight

Righty_McRight
Since Feb 19, 2005


CAREFUL!


43 posted on 03/03/2005 11:41:58 AM PST by Don Simmons (Annoy a liberal: Work hard; Prosper; Be Happy.)
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To: Wristpin
The Navy and Air Force were supposed to give up 40,000 billets to the Marines and Army. Has this taken affect and spiked recruiting goals higher?

Last I heard they had managed to get fewer than 200 people to transfer from the Air Force and Navy to the Marines and Army.

44 posted on 03/03/2005 11:44:18 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: An Old Marine

Well, I don't think that the government will just say never mind to an army and we deserve what happens to us. This is 2005, and people think differently than they did 50-60 yr ago.


45 posted on 03/03/2005 11:45:17 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: wtc911

We need another invasion, or a bigger, better enemy?


46 posted on 03/03/2005 11:46:39 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: RasterMaster

got it- I see where you're coming from...depending on your rank, etc...you can stay in a long time...I could have done 30 years of warrant officer service had I wanted to, which would have put me out right around 63 years old- the problem is, when you stretch into that middle 40's mark, you're really starting to slow down; you've already put in a couple of decades of wear and tear on your body- I could run a sub 12 minute two mile when I was 32, and even though I still work out everyday, I can't come close to that now...when I got to where I couldn't push the 18 year olds, I knew it was time to go...but that's just me...


47 posted on 03/03/2005 11:49:27 AM PST by nicko (CW3 (ret.) CPT, you need to just unass the AO; I know what I'm doing- that goes for you too, Major)
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To: Archangelsk

absolutely right...see my post 47...it's a young man's Army...if you can't lead from the front cause you can't keep up, it's time to hang up the spurs...


48 posted on 03/03/2005 11:53:26 AM PST by nicko (CW3 (ret.) CPT, you need to just unass the AO; I know what I'm doing- that goes for you too, Major)
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To: nicko

Yes, you are right, especially when you factor in the separation and stress for your family.


49 posted on 03/03/2005 11:56:14 AM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: Archangelsk

You are right. I didn't want to retire when I did, but I knew it was the right time, both for me and for my family. You have to go sooner or later and it's a bitch trying to find a job when your 48 years old. Still wish I was 30 years younger and 30 pounds lighter.


50 posted on 03/03/2005 11:59:18 AM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I'm not talking about the Blue to Green Program, I'm talking about end strength authorized by Congress. The Army and Marines will have 40,000 more NEW positions that need to be filled.

I was asking if anyone knows whether the end strength change has taken effect, thus sharply increased recruiting goals?


51 posted on 03/03/2005 11:59:41 AM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: ops33

Double or triple their pay. Cut where needed. God knows that there are money pits would could realocate this money from. They just aren't being compensated enough to make the risk and hardship worth it. Double or triple the pay!


52 posted on 03/03/2005 12:01:33 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: JBlain

You're 22. What would it take to get you to enlist?


53 posted on 03/03/2005 12:13:48 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Gefreiter

No wonder this is happening with all the seditious propaganda by the treasonous MSM. We are winning but you wouldn't know it by listening to the news.


54 posted on 03/03/2005 12:19:37 PM PST by balch3
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To: Wristpin
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that for the past few years the Army has been working with a temporary overstrength goal of 30,000 soldiers. I thought that Congress merely changed those 30,000 slots from temporary into permanent. So in that case, I don't think there's going to be any big jump in recruiting goals at this time.
55 posted on 03/03/2005 12:33:36 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: Righty_McRight

Quit putting soldiers on trial for actions in combat that tick off some reporter.


56 posted on 03/03/2005 12:36:03 PM PST by drc43 (We have 4 years left to get it right)
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To: balch3
Yeah, you have a point, I think. The press focuses only on American deaths and nothing else. The deaths are significant, of course, but if they reported a better picture of the overall war against terrorism I think the public would be better informed.

We had a Medal of Honor recently -- that should have been a big story but it wasn't. And we could use a few more stories about the reality of Saddam's regime, and the noble reasons we liberated the country.

57 posted on 03/03/2005 12:36:33 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: Non-Sequitur

Not everyone is well suited for military service -- only a fraction of our young people meet all the requirements. I hope no one here will give anyone a hard time for choosing not to serve in the military -- those folks can (and do) serve their country in hundreds of other ways.


58 posted on 03/03/2005 12:39:43 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: drc43

You're right. They're out their 24/7 waiting for our soldiers to do something bad. They put no effort into reporting the good stuff.


59 posted on 03/03/2005 12:42:04 PM PST by Righty_McRight ("Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those staggering toward slaughter" Proverbs 24:11)
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To: 68skylark
Not everyone is well suited for military service -- only a fraction of our young people meet all the requirements.

You'll get no arguement on that from me. People enlist for a variety of reasons, call to serve, patriotism, a desire to return something to their country, even adventure and travel. It was my experience that money was pretty far down the list. But JBlain seems to think that it's all a matter of throwing more cash at people. I was wondering if that would work for him, and if it wouldn't then what made him think it would work for others?

60 posted on 03/03/2005 12:48:09 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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