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To: Flightdeck
When exactly do you think life begins?

I have answered that question more than once in other posts on this thread; you might try using your reading skills before getting all worked up. I will answer that question again, however. I think life is eternal - never beginning and never ending. This human experience is just one of infinite possibilities to manifest God's gift of life. Whether or not we enter or leave this human experience at a particular time and circumstance does not alter our status as the offspring of God. Therefore, I believe that quality of life is more important than quantity of life. We are here to learn and progress towards the spiritual reality of God's creation. One of the most important elements of that process is FREEDOM. That means the freedom to make wrong or detrimental decisions as well as good ones. Abortion is most often the wrong decision - but maybe not always. Consider the situation where giving birth would most likely result in the death of the mother. Is an unborn, potential human more valuable than a mature, responsible adult with a family dependent upon her? There is a case to be made that allowing the mother to die is closer to murder than taking action to prevent that outcome. But, neither case is murder.

If you truly believe that a woman deciding not to take a pregnancy to term is murder, what are you doing to remedy this crime? Are you prepared to fight a civil war over this issue (because that is likely what it would take). Can you imagine the consequence of that action?

Why don't we just kill all the kids who are already in that situation? They'd be better off.

There is clearly a significant difference between the environment in a woman's womb and the environment into which all human beings have been born. Different considerations apply. It is, of course, not acceptable to kill children in unfortunate conditions (although many do suffer and die because the world does not pay attention). It is also not acceptable to a great many for you or the government to assume the duty of determining what happens in the wombs of women.

Please read all my other posts regarding this issue before emotionally responding in an insulting manner.

74 posted on 03/04/2005 12:31:57 PM PST by Semper
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To: Semper

OK I apologize for my insulting tone.

Oddly enough, I agree with nearly everything you wrote, including the boundless property of life and the purpose of coming to earth to learn through experience. However, that very point is why you would be horribly wrong to condone the choice of abortion. If a soul chooses to "come down" to gain certain experience, then the soul which would have been born into poverty or addicted to drugs can no longer learn through that experience. Maybe the entire goal of that particular human life is to experience oppression and overcome it, which is denied when the child is aborted. At any rate, you admitted that the human life exists in the womb, so abortion is the murder of that person the same as murder of a one-month old. If the mother's life is threatened, then that is a self-defense issue which shouldn't be confused with murder. Likewise if a girl is raped, and will suffer irreparable mental damage by being forced to carry the child, then self-defense again becomes an issue.

As to your last point, I am willing to do everything in my power to eradicate this infanticide. One day it will be just a stain on American history next to slavery, and we will be shocked at how primitive we once were.


76 posted on 03/04/2005 1:21:10 PM PST by Flightdeck (Liberals see Saddam's mass graves as half full. I prefer to see them as half empty.)
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