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To: txrangerette

Greer was massaging Diane's testimony in his Order to fit a timeline that would put Terri in peril.


1,889 posted on 03/04/2005 2:43:07 PM PST by floriduh voter (PRIMO TERRI NEWS www.theempirejournal.com Send everybody there!!!)
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To: floriduh voter

We know he wanted Terri in peril. But the man literally used the wrong date for Karen's death. Do I credit Greer with being competent enough to actually know the correct date, while pretending it was an earlier one? I do not. I think he literally got the date wrong, and of course he would not double-check it because it fit with what he wanted to rule against Terri's life. Attorney Gibbs seems quite taken with this huge find, and I don't blame him.


1,897 posted on 03/04/2005 2:49:21 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: floriduh voter; All
In reference to the testimony regarding the Quinlan case here is some interesting info from St. Petersburg Times November 8, 2003

(excerpt) Mrs. Schiavo's parents fought back. Her mother, Mary Schindler, said she discussed with her daughter the famous right-to-die case of Karen Ann Quinlan, back when the legal fight to take Quinlan off a ventilator was front-page news.

"If they take her off, she might die. Just leave her alone and she will die whenever," she said her daughter told her.

Felos introduced newspaper stories showing that the Quinlan case was front-page news when Terri Schiavo was 11 or 12 years old.

Mrs. Schiavo's former friend, Diane Meyer, recalled watching a movie about Quinlan in the summer of 1982 after they graduated high school.

"I remember one of the things she said is, 'How did they know she would want this? How did they know she wouldn't want to go on?' " Meyer testified.

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According to the petition that Attorney Gibbs has filed, Judge Greer discounted Diane Meyer's testimony about the 1982 conversation because she referred to Karen Quinlan in the present tense and he felt, therefore, that the conversation must have occured in the 1970s. However, Karen Quinlan actually died in 1985 and it was entirely appropriate for Diane Meyer to state her testimony in the present tense because when their conversation occurred in 1982 Karen Quinlan was still alive. I think this is a huge find because it shoots a very large hole in the "clear and convincing evidence" standard that all the courts have upheld.
1,921 posted on 03/04/2005 3:15:28 PM PST by mommy23
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