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US can sit back and watch Europe implode
Chicago sun-Times ^ | Feb.27, 2005 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 02/27/2005 12:32:39 PM PST by Zivasmate

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According to Steyn, IMO the best writer in the business, Europe will become increasingly irrelevant, President Bush isbasically humoring their leaders, and our real worry is their growing Islamic population.
1 posted on 02/27/2005 12:32:43 PM PST by Zivasmate
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To: Zivasmate

Already posted.


2 posted on 02/27/2005 12:33:44 PM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Zivasmate

The question is, why sit back when you can stand up and cheer?


3 posted on 02/27/2005 12:35:13 PM PST by thoughtomator (Unafraid to be unpopular)
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A 511 page constitution is designed so it's citizens won't be able to understand it.


4 posted on 02/27/2005 12:44:07 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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...the EU constitution is a disaster waiting to happen, you might as well cut down the waiting and let it happen...

As someone else has already alluded -- Steyn is as good as it gets.

5 posted on 02/27/2005 12:44:36 PM PST by Migraine
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Don't miss the Steyn interview on C-SPAN Washington Journal here. Click the top link.
6 posted on 02/27/2005 12:44:41 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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Because Bush is a class act and a "no gloat" guy.


7 posted on 02/27/2005 12:46:03 PM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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Somehow this whole bit on the decline and fall of Europe and European type snychophants "thinkers" vs. the US reminds me of the chidrens story about the grasshopper and the ants; and we all know how that story came out.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least to see a new flood of immigrants coming to the US from Europe. The few good ones left; fleeing, saying they've had enough of Socialism and Liberalism.


8 posted on 02/27/2005 12:52:50 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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That can only be good news for the Republican Party. IMO, Europe in 50 yrs from now will be mostly an Islamic continent.


9 posted on 02/27/2005 12:59:37 PM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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The Eurinal politicians and so-called journalists are so much more gentlemanly than here. The Eurinals NEVER say anything about the false reporting on national economics that the other nations submit.

Wait until the day when the German Muslims try to impose their brand of Islam on the French, Dutch and Polish Muslims to create a 1,000 year hadj.

10 posted on 02/27/2005 1:02:28 PM PST by Tacis ("John ("What SF-180?") Kerry - Still Shilling For Those Who Would Harm America!")
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"Wouldn't surprise me in the least to see a new flood of immigrants coming to the US from Europe. The few good ones left; fleeing, saying they've had enough of Socialism and Liberalism."

A lot of the good ones left years or centuries ago, and became our parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc. Every morning when I put my flag up, I thank God my grandparents had the strength, courage, and determination to leave Europe for the New World, so I could be born and raised here.


11 posted on 02/27/2005 1:05:12 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: Zivasmate

Great article, thank you.

I like the idea that Bush is just humoring them.

We should now remove our remaining troops from Europe, Germany in particular. If some are needed to protect the newer, Eastern European states, then put a much smaller contingent in Poland.

Then we should humor them some more and state we are removing our troops because the EU is now much more capable of defending itself.

We have to stop subsidizing their economies with our troop deployments!!!!


12 posted on 02/27/2005 1:06:40 PM PST by 2ndreconmarine
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Thanks for posting - an excellent laugh. Steyn is the best.


13 posted on 02/27/2005 1:07:34 PM PST by datura (Stress is best relieved using therapeutic high explosives.)
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Europe is again being swallowed up by Ethnocentric thinking and behavior that has always led to its wars.

Next step to watch for is for some group to start claiming the powers of a tyrant in their small area of a country. If the rest of the country draws back from confronting them, the snowball will begin to build.

Tyranny is right down Islam's alley. Tyrannical Europe provides a role model for Islam. In Iraq, a small group dominated the life of an entire country, with a tyranny firmly establishing itself. The tyrant started wars to expand his empire.

Europe knows a tyrant-group when they see one, and yet they still fall habit to appeasing that tyrant-group. Let's see if Europe reacts the same way again for the umptieth time.


14 posted on 02/27/2005 1:11:53 PM PST by jolie560
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Any idea which country might be the lucky center of the tyranny? My guess is - oh what's the name of the country with the Eiffel Tower again?


15 posted on 02/27/2005 1:22:02 PM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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Within 50 years Islam will own Europe because those in power over there now are too C S to do anything to stop them. They are already too paranoid to say anything that might even offend the Muslim world.
In the end they will want us to stop the Islamic cancer as it creeps ever forward. We can, and we will.
When you get them all in one place, nuclear weapons are much more effective. If Europe will not help us in stopping this Islamic disease, then let them die from it. We will cremate the body and sterilize the land. Lock and Load
16 posted on 02/27/2005 1:28:08 PM PST by oldenuff2no (Proud Nam Vet)
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"CIA analysts predict the collapse of the EU within 15 years."

25 years ago, the CIA (in some analysis) predicted the collapse of Mexico in 10 years.

17 posted on 02/27/2005 1:39:29 PM PST by elfman2 (Not paid to be PC)
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The Euro-bigwigs shuffled their feet and stared coldly into their mistresses' decolletage.

LOL !!!

18 posted on 02/27/2005 1:46:04 PM PST by NCjim
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It won't be long before little Hans and little Ana come home and declare they have converted. Individuality is hard to come by in Europe and the children have learned well. Won't be long before they start converting to avoid any conflict or it appears it could threaten their vacation time. The hold outs will convert via sword.


19 posted on 02/27/2005 1:50:58 PM PST by riri
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"CIA analysts predict the collapse of the EU within 15 years."

If it were just the Joseph Wilson tea-drinkers at the CIA, I might be skeptical, but that's also what some of the better Wall Streeters will say after a couple of drinks of harder stuff.

Q. Can you give us some of your thoughts and prognostications about Europe?

Byron Wien: "Yeah, I was hoping you wouldn't ask about that. I almost got fired once for my comments on Europe, and it looks like I'm going to run that risk again. In 1995 I was going to Europe and I gave an interview to a Wall Street Journal reporter. He said, "Boy you have a terrible job - you have to travel all the time." I didn't want to tell him that the only time I returned reporters phone calls is when I'm in airports, and I said, "I really like to travel - I learn a lot. " And he said. "Where are you going?" and I said, "Amsterdam." He said, "What do you expect to learn there?" And I said, "Well, I have this theory that if the European union doesn't work twenty years from now, Europe will be a vast open air museum." Now usually when I say something irresponsible to a reporter I say, "You know, I was only kidding about the open air museum," but I liked the ring of it - you know, the open air museum.

(LAUGHTER)

Byron Wien: "...so I didn't say anything, and the next day in the European Wall Street Journal and the U.S. Wall Street Journal, that line printed and I got in an enormous amount of trouble for it.

"I've generally had a skeptical view of Europe and I don't think that the European union is working as seamlessly as it was supposed to...." (Byron reverts to diplomat-mode)

(From: Morgan Stanley Outlook & Strategy 2004)

20 posted on 02/27/2005 1:59:51 PM PST by Sooth2222
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