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Bush dodges cocaine charges as addicts rot in jail
Toronto Star ^ | Feb. 27, 2005. 01:00 AM | Joe Conason

Posted on 02/27/2005 7:50:54 AM PST by rface

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To: bigsigh

Please verify the claims about Bush's cocaine use you've made in this thread.


141 posted on 02/27/2005 9:34:37 AM PST by marajade
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To: sanjacjake
Don't know about the P word.

He hasn't denied being a pedophile.

142 posted on 02/27/2005 9:35:20 AM PST by Drango (Freepmail me to get on/off the *NPR/PBS* ping list)
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To: Drango
Yep. A simple denial and all this would go away.

What is he afraid of?

143 posted on 02/27/2005 9:37:23 AM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: libertyman
Not all drug users NEED rehab.

Ah yes, another "benefit" of how Americans are propagandized about drugs: the popular image of all addicts as disfunctional.

Dubya, like most people who overdo it, realized he was headed for trouble and quit drinking and, I think one can assume, all other intoxicating substances.

But if that were widely known, it might put a kink in the plans of the quacks that run marijuana "rehab" clinics.

144 posted on 02/27/2005 9:37:51 AM PST by eno_
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To: Goodgirlinred

We are reaping the results of a decade of hardline regarding prisoners. These things are cyclical. Some times we are very easy and others hard. The reality that 97+% of all prisoners will get out should put the onus on the system to provide them the opportunity to come out better than when they went in. Not only do many states not advocate this, it is a very difficult thing to do with budget constraints and the laisse faire attitude of the public toward what goes on inside.


145 posted on 02/27/2005 9:37:51 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: rface

Joe Conason.... LOL! Haven't seen him around for awhile.
It's no surprise that some paper in Canada still publishes that guy's raving bitterness.
He's Molly Ivins.... without the clever subtlety, LMAO.


146 posted on 02/27/2005 9:38:37 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: marajade
read my 72 and verify it yourself.

You're free to not believe it. There used to be threads here about it in early 2000. I once did a search for Bush and cocaine. Many Mena references and a couple about W. Have fun.

I stand by my direct hearing of the statement and the direct quote from W on an NBC news interview.

147 posted on 02/27/2005 9:40:38 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: rface

This kind of article is meaningless. It is too late for this campaign rhetoric to influence the election, so it is no more than outdated and useless ghosts of old polemics. Those who practice polemics past their point of utility are themselves past their point of utility to society and may constitute a danger to themselves and their neighborhood.


148 posted on 02/27/2005 9:40:40 AM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: rface
Ah! Joe Conason swallowing Bull Sperm again...
Nasty habit that... Cowboys RIDE bulls.. Conason, ugh, well, you know..
149 posted on 02/27/2005 9:41:05 AM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: bigsigh

I did read your post 72. Where is the direct quote from Bush's campaign?


150 posted on 02/27/2005 9:41:34 AM PST by marajade
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To: marajade

I did not remember the exact words to put them in quotes. It was December 1999. The statement said that Mr. Bush had not used hard drugs in the last 25 years. That's ALMOST word for word, but Imay not have it precisely. Then in January, 2000 W said he stood by the statement and would not address it anymore.


151 posted on 02/27/2005 9:43:29 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: bigsigh

Well, maybe all prisons should become Federal prisons then and should be outsourced to the states to run under Federal guidelines. I know, I know. Just another thing for Big Brother to get into. However, I believe that it makes sense to have them run within the same guidelines with rehabilitation as the goal. It would save a lot of money and, hopefully, salvage a lot of lives.


152 posted on 02/27/2005 9:44:07 AM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: rface
Joe Conason wonders why the president is punishing drug users for offences he has also been linked to.

The President is not "punishing" drug users; they are being punished under the laws of the jurisdiction in which they were convicted.

153 posted on 02/27/2005 9:44:18 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: Run Silent Run Deep

Rumor is when Bush was campaigning here in Iowa during his first run; his car was speeding one time. The word is that the car was going 68 in a 65 zone.
It was never in the media, had to be cover up by moneyed Republican interests to keep it out of sight.


154 posted on 02/27/2005 9:45:20 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland
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To: Drango

:)

Good one!

Red6


155 posted on 02/27/2005 9:47:11 AM PST by Red6
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To: marajade

You didn't ask me; but, yes, I have. The last time, the officer let me go. That was very sweet of him. :) I have tried very, very hard since then to take it easy on the accelerator.


156 posted on 02/27/2005 9:47:39 AM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: bigsigh

You can't link to it... if it was said it'd be very easy to link to wouldn't it?


157 posted on 02/27/2005 9:47:43 AM PST by marajade
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To: Goodgirlinred
I agree. The money is not there. In California 90% of the budget goes to employee salaries. Most of them are guards. The cost is now near 30,000 per year. The youth authority which has classes or work for all inmates has a budget of 40000 per. So if you add 10,000 per year per inmate (200,000+) to the budget for corrections it will further break the bank.

In general I don't see the public as interested in prisons. Mostly the attitude is "just don't let them escape). Only the most farsighted talk about what they'll be like when they are released. I'll give it 5 minutes before someone relies, then don't release them.

158 posted on 02/27/2005 9:47:58 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: Goodgirlinred
I thought that the only ones who are put in jail are the ones who commit crimes or the ones who have enough on them to be charged with intent to distribute.

Depends on the state, For instance, on marijuana, any amount can be a felony in Louisiana, while any amount in Cali is a misdemeanor, unless you are growing or caught selling.
... and yes I am for decrim. of pot to the level of cigarettes.
159 posted on 02/27/2005 9:48:00 AM PST by Boondock_Saint
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To: Drango
***Psssssst.... Joe Conason is a pedophile. I have no evidence of that, but pass it around anyway.***

Hey that's a pretty good rumor.
BTW, I've also heard Conason is a Transvestite. I too have no proof, but that's 'the word on the street'.



:-)

160 posted on 02/27/2005 9:49:00 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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