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[Temple Coach] Chaney's punishment should be dismissal, not suspension
CBS Sportsline ^ | 2/24/05 | Gregg Doyel

Posted on 02/25/2005 8:52:54 AM PST by BlackRazor

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To: over3Owithabrain

Chaney has a pretty good track record . . . for Temple. It's not an easy place to get good recruits, and he has the virtue of being a well-established coach. That helps with recruiting considering the neighborhood Temple is in is something comparable to a hell-hole.


41 posted on 02/25/2005 11:58:38 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude

He has always been the black Bobby Knight - the outbursts, threats, and occasional displays of violence. Both coaches were successful in winning ballgames and educating their recruits. Yet the media has long hated one and pandered to the other.


42 posted on 02/25/2005 12:10:14 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: over3Owithabrain

Disclaimer--I'm an Indiana fan, and I've always been big supporter of Bob Knight.

It's true--Coach Knight would certainly be getting rougher treatment from the press in the same situation--but I doubt he would of done something like this in the first place. I can't condemn Chaney too much though--he's always been a vocal supporter of Coach Knight, and up until now, has always seemed like a decent guy. I think a suspension is warranted--but he shouldn't be fired. Coach Knight was certainly dismissed for a lot less--but it was also unjustified IMO.


44 posted on 02/25/2005 12:22:59 PM PST by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: sam_whiskey

And Knight never used a sports speech to bash our noble President. Chaney can go rot in some pissant junior college for all I care.


45 posted on 02/25/2005 12:27:41 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: AmishDude
It's not an easy place to get good recruits, and he has the virtue of being a well-established coach.

One of his recruiting tools (and the way he got Temple on the map) is the fact that he's basically willing to put anyone on the schedule, anywhere. Temple perrenially has one of the toughest non-conference schedules in the country. This year they had Georgetown, South Carolina, Arizona St., Villanova, Pennsylvania, Alabama, Wake Forest, Maryland, and Duke. A schedule like that cuts both ways. You're going to lose a lot of games. But if you have a good record in-conference, the strength of schedule raises your power rating up high enough that you can get into the NCAA tournament, even with only a 17-13 overall record or so -- which Temple has done a few times.

46 posted on 02/25/2005 12:27:58 PM PST by BlackRazor
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To: MikeinIraq

I appreciate your comment and posting to me. Now I have one more question? Should the player be charged with assault? If it was not during a basketball game it clearly would be assault. And if he is guilty of assault then shouldn't Chaney be charged as a participant in the crime?


47 posted on 02/25/2005 12:52:19 PM PST by Investment Biker
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To: BlackRazor

I agree with you on the youth and Josh Smith. They also have two seniors next year from Auburn (damnit)(War Eagle). So if he keeps his job I think that will have a lot to do with it. One thing I fault him for is he keeps saying help is on the way. He said it the year before Wright and Strickland got there and he's been at it ever since. Mike is a wonderful person, even if he did go to that other school in my home state, and I hope he gets another shot. I just don't think he will.


48 posted on 02/25/2005 1:02:25 PM PST by Hondo1952 (Wife Wanted. I'm Old, Fat, Broke, Impotent, but my bad attitude overcomes those shortcomings.)
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To: BlackRazor

One of the local radio stations last week was talking about Alford being on thin ice at Iowa. If he's available I think IU will be all over him. He was on the radio later in the week and was excited about his future at Iowa. Personally I think it will be Dan Dakich. I used to think either Jim Crews or Joby Wright, but I think they may go with a younger one. Another name being mentioned around Indy is Randy Wittman.


49 posted on 02/25/2005 1:07:08 PM PST by Hondo1952 (Wife Wanted. I'm Old, Fat, Broke, Impotent, but my bad attitude overcomes those shortcomings.)
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To: MikeinIraq
This is just breaking on ESPN radio guys, Cheney has been suspended for the rest of the year.

Actually he's suspended for the rest of the regular season which is all of three games. Big Deal. He'll be back for the A-10 tournament. Slap on the wrist for a premeditated act. I guess will have to wait for a Bill Musselman-type incident where Luke Witte got the living hell beaten out of him before anything will be done.

The man should be summarily fired.

50 posted on 02/25/2005 1:10:13 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: BlackRazor
Chaney has now been suspended for the rest of the season.
51 posted on 02/25/2005 2:21:13 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (<b><font color=e58d0e>Did you know that HTML codes don't work on tag lines?</font></b>)
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To: MikeinIraq; BlackRazor
At the least -- the very least -- Chaney should match Bryant on a game-for-game basis. Bryant's out? Chaney's out, too. If Bryant doesn't return this season, neither should Chaney.

I'm in agreement. This should be the absolute minimum, and I still say Mr. Chaney needs to retire. Heck, I hadn't even heard about his butthead behavior at the sports dinner. This fella's taken one too many to the head (which might explain why he is ugly with a capital Ugh!).

52 posted on 02/25/2005 7:15:41 PM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Investment Biker

He could be charged I think yes...but I think the actual trial would be more a civil suit against Cheney instead of a criminal case against the player...

They probably have bigger fish to fry in Philly anyway...


53 posted on 02/26/2005 7:34:19 AM PST by MikefromOhio (The DUmmies: Showing us daily how screwed up people can really be!!!!)
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To: You Dirty Rats

I still dont think he should be fired.

When I posted that, I was as yet unaware that it was only for the rest of the regular season. He should be suspended for any tournaments too IMO.

If I were the league, I would ask him to retire. They want to avoid another Woody Hayes type issue and they certainly dont want their marquee coach to go out like that....


54 posted on 02/26/2005 7:35:49 AM PST by MikefromOhio (The DUmmies: Showing us daily how screwed up people can really be!!!!)
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To: BlackRazor
John Cheney is a POS.

The only people in Philly who are still defending him are professional victim blacks and, naturally, the Philadelphia Daily News (which is to the left of Pravda).

If I was in workplace situation and ordered one of my people to assault a co-worker, I'd wind up in the jail.

Then again, I was born with the original sin of being white.

55 posted on 02/26/2005 8:43:27 AM PST by tbg681
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To: MikeinIraq
I think this was far worse than Woody Hayes. At least Woody acted spontaneously. If you look at Cheney's comments before the game even started, this was clearly premeditated.

If I'm a coach with a game against Temple scheduled, I would suit up a walkon linebacker or defensive end who would enter the game if Cheney's goon came on the floor. That thug has no business on the floor; if Temple or the A-10 won't suspend him, then as an opposing coach I have to protect my players. If Temple wants Goon Basketball then their opponents should oblige them.

First goon hockey, now goon bashetball. That's Philly for you.

56 posted on 02/26/2005 9:19:58 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: You Dirty Rats

actually, I give Cheney credit for admitting it. The rest of these hotshot college coaches WON'T, but they do the same thing all the time.

So it's worse than Woody you say. That is exactly the reason they won't let him go out on a note like this in the A-10 assuming it doesnt happen again.

Being an Ohio State fan, I dont think this is worse than what Woody did, mainly because hard fouling is sometimes prevalent in rivalry games. Woody actually hit a player, a line that even Cheney won't cross.


57 posted on 02/26/2005 9:27:11 AM PST by MikefromOhio (The DUmmies: Showing us daily how screwed up people can really be!!!!)
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To: BlackRazor
Fact is Cheney is not only black he is a Democrat and both are immune to any real punishment on American college campuses.
58 posted on 02/26/2005 9:39:48 AM PST by gunnedah
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