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To: cricket
The visual here of your explanation is one of a 'chinese puzzle'. . .box-in-box; rational; fits neatly. . .box filled. . .with box filled with box; but while each box is filled with the other; the boxes remain empty. . .

Wow, that made me think. Very Zen :-) BTW, that is not my explanation, it is a quote from someone with his own point of view. MY explanation is (a) awareness during sleep paralysis for abductions, and (b) some sort of shared hallucination for the otherwise unexplainable (admittedly not any more rationalistic than more conventional UFO enthusiast explanations). I think there is a level of consciousness, call it collective unconscious or whatever, where people join together to play out human fears and hopes. That's why (besides unconscious simple copycatting) alien descriptions are stereotyoed, e.g. Grays, etc.

During my awareness during sleep paralysis, I had some weird experiences, too, not involving aliens, but, with a different personal mythology I reckon they might have taken on an X-Files cast.
446 posted on 02/24/2005 6:55:30 PM PST by SalukiLawyer (12" Powerbook, Airport, surfing FR anywhere I want to)
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To: SalukiLawyer

Don't have time to go into it, but your interesting side-discussion may have it's parallel in the tales of people who 'wake up' during otherwise deep anesthesia.


478 posted on 02/24/2005 7:08:24 PM PST by GopherIt
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To: SalukiLawyer

imho . . .

THE ABDUCTION phenomena is diverse enough and complex enough

!!!!NO!!!! tidy box explanation, including yours,

will BEGIN to fit the data.

BTW, there's tons of abduction stuff where the victims have had body marks, implants etc. and even empty wombs after the experience--immediately after--that they did NOT have going to bed.

Sleep paralysis doesn't begin to explain all of it.


522 posted on 02/24/2005 7:33:41 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: SalukiLawyer
"I think there is a level of consciousness, call it collective unconscious or whatever, where people join together to play out human fears and hopes. That's why (besides unconscious simple copycatting) alien descriptions are stereotyoed, e.g. Grays, etc."

Thanks for explaning. . .

And. . I do agree with what you say. . .re the collective unconsious. . .shared dreams. . .fears; myths. . . et al. . .and yes, the Gray's/ / /

But again. . .and I digress to 'other'. . .this time; the blind men' describing the elephant. Each man holding on to truth, if only a a 'trunk'... an ear. . .a tail. ..

544 posted on 02/24/2005 7:46:14 PM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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