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1 posted on 02/24/2005 2:04:26 PM PST by wjersey
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This is fine, but perhaps this will just make him dig in his heels and get more truculent.


2 posted on 02/24/2005 2:06:10 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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Putin looked like he was sucking on lemons sitting next to Bush.


3 posted on 02/24/2005 2:07:26 PM PST by John Lenin
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I can't wait to see how the NY Slimes characterizes this press conference. Wanna bet it won't seem anything like this?


4 posted on 02/24/2005 2:08:25 PM PST by CT CONSERVATIVE (Fight Crime: Shoot Back)
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Good grief..I watched that news conference and afterwards the talking heads did not have this take on it as "humiliation" of Putin in any form or fashion!


6 posted on 02/24/2005 2:10:48 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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Good move! Antagonize another country and do it in the most injurious way to their leader's pride. Who is Bush impressing with this act? American don't really care about Russia. Is this a desperate attempt to win the favor of Europeans. Neocons put him up to it? I'd like to get a better handle on it.


9 posted on 02/24/2005 2:11:40 PM PST by jagrmeister
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Why be democratic when it's so much easier to be authoritarian!


10 posted on 02/24/2005 2:13:07 PM PST by OneTimeLurker
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Does anyone have a video of the press conference?
12 posted on 02/24/2005 2:14:22 PM PST by bahblahbah
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One more point- it's become obvious that the Bush administration cowers before strength and laughs in the face of weakness. This is why we gave Mommar nothing when Libya disarmed voluntarily but refuse to take action in N. Korea or Iran. Further, China has arguably worse "democractic values" than Russia, but they are a surging economic powerhouse and we don't want to pick a fight with them. So you'll never hear Bush condemn Hu Jintao during a press conference like this. But for Russia, which is in economic shambles, Bush finds it easy to kick them around. All this does is give our enemies one message- threaten the US credibly and you have it made.


13 posted on 02/24/2005 2:14:27 PM PST by jagrmeister
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But But, according to these numbnuts:

Link to the duH Asylum

Bush was intimdated.

It's all so confusing.

15 posted on 02/24/2005 2:14:51 PM PST by Lx (Tuesday is Soylent green day!)
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"Nevertheless, there was no getting away from it. Vladimir Putin had just gone through the most humiliating experience of his presidency."

Hey Action Figure! This is your hero here huh? I guess the Cobra Commander is calling you to action to sort this out huh? HAHAHAHAHA!!!

As always, give my regards to Putin, comrade!

24 posted on 02/24/2005 2:20:17 PM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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Analysis: This Analysis needs more Analysis


26 posted on 02/24/2005 2:21:03 PM PST by msnimje
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Sounds like a short term gain and a long term loss. Can't Bush praise publicly and criticize in private? My guess is Russia will be a swing in the next world war -- and it's better if they're on our side.


45 posted on 02/24/2005 2:30:28 PM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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Putin had to field a lot of pointed references to a building monarchy, but I thought he handled it in a average way. Bush tried to back him up at one point.

Putin's justifications were that rich and powerful men were successfully manipulating elections and that measures were taken to prevent it. Also that those measure were in compliance with democracy.

My take is that a country needs to pas laws to contain this particular problem, not limit speech or use appointments rather than elections for regional governors.

At one time, we appointed Senators. But governors have always been elected.

He could also break up some of these provinces into smaller pieces.

Lots of other options available. Get the Duma to do something, and quit grabbing more and more power Mr.Putin.

52 posted on 02/24/2005 2:33:44 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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I watched that press conference and I didn't see that at all. I thought they did really well. Bush defended Putin and Putin defended Bush.


63 posted on 02/24/2005 2:48:27 PM PST by McGavin999
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Sometimes it is comical to read these threads. Some are saying that President Bush went too far and was impolitic, while others want him to go farther and tackle China while he's at it.

From the article, if Putin felt any discomfort it was because our president doesn't shift or put on appearances. He is not usually an in-your-face kind of guy, either. Putin's problem was that he was off of Russian turf and is normally shielded from this type of exchange.

81 posted on 02/24/2005 3:07:02 PM PST by Ruth A.
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Here is the reference list giving the texts of what was said by whom on all topics discussed at the Summit as well as preceding preparatory discussions:



Bush Putin Slovakia Summit List of Press Releases

96 posted on 02/24/2005 3:18:58 PM PST by bd476
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Pooty poot must not of liked his can of whoop ass.


97 posted on 02/24/2005 3:19:56 PM PST by hope
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The reporter petulantly asked what this talk about lack of freedom in Russia "was all about" suggesting President Putin should raise issues about press freedom in the United States. Journalists lose their jobs in America too, he said.

When President Bush said it was true that journalists did get fired in America, but by their editors and not the government, one almost started to feel sorry for President Putin.

Score one for GW.

102 posted on 02/24/2005 3:33:30 PM PST by The Toad
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I deny that Russia was the first real test if G.W. meant as he said. The press refuses to acknowledge his successes and would rather set up their own faux benchmark.

If we are to deny the revolutions of freedom (and causes of) sweeping the Globe as proof he means as he says., would not at least our announced alliance with Japan signal a change above and before a press conference with Putin?

I'll confess I'm reluntant to join in the Putin bashing. The Press on both aisles is too eager for the exhibit, and this makes me automatically sympathtic to Putin.

I'm not a sympathizer of what he has done. Putin is reverting to Soviet techniques and his involvement with Ukraine was inexcusable. I'm only aware there are other factors at play here, and while Putin deserves condemnation, I'm not eager to aid others against him for less than admirable motives themselves. The end result of doing so is that their enemy is defeated, making one less obstacle to distract their attention in their attempts to be a counterpart to the U.S.

Russia acts as a counterpart to Europe and China. It isn't in our interests to allow them to sell nukes to the M.E. nor interfere with free elections, but it isn't in our interests to strengthen Europe and China by destroying Russia for them either.

I don't trust Putin, but I trust France, Germany and China far less.


109 posted on 02/24/2005 3:57:04 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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BTTT


126 posted on 02/24/2005 6:53:57 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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