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How Free is Britain?
Social Affairs Unit ^ | Feb 22 05 | Anthony Daniels

Posted on 02/24/2005 12:32:34 AM PST by ijcr

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To: ijcr

Hmmm, don't know the gentleman's real name, but this particular article is a warning to us all, everywhere, and I hope he tends his garden well. He surely has a green thumb. (Saw a tv commercial on cable last night exhorting South Africa tourism. My hair stood on end.)


21 posted on 02/24/2005 2:49:42 AM PST by hershey
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To: MadIvan
My, my...where have those reputedly impeccable Isle manners gone? It is, after all, considered common courtesy even among us crude colonialists to *ping a person we're discussing in the third person to another poster...

Guess that's in the same steep decline as stiff upper lips and basic human liberty out your way too, eh?

Your "anti-British bigot" bilge is, besides being nonsense, the textbook definition of laughable. What I am is an "anti-Mad Ivan nonsense & smarmy half-truths" bigot. To that charge I happily plead guilty...

22 posted on 02/24/2005 2:57:51 AM PST by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had not feet.")
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To: oursouls
Uh-huh...whatever you say, cowboy.
23 posted on 02/24/2005 2:59:18 AM PST by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had not feet.")
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To: ijcr

Britain is doomed.


24 posted on 02/24/2005 2:59:31 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: A Jovial Cad

You really can't help yourself, can you? This whole act you put on, gaining gratification by being abusive to people online, is pretty pathetic.

Ivan


25 posted on 02/24/2005 3:04:13 AM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: ijcr
How Free is Britain?

The Brits rejected the Idea of a Constitution of the Sovereign U.S.A.,....and they are today 'still' opposed to that U.S.A. citizen 'Sovereignty'

(That ain't very free......The British peoples are still 'subjects'...?)

/EU's U.N.

26 posted on 02/24/2005 3:12:08 AM PST by maestro
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To: MadIvan; GeronL; A Jovial Cad

As an American living in the UK, I can vouch for the fact that the title of this article is quite incorrect -- one feels quite free to do what one wants in the UK


27 posted on 02/24/2005 3:13:57 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: BigCinBigD
Britain will be okay, if they follow one of their greatest writer's visionary instincts: George Orwell made "Oceania" a part of the North & South American power construct in that novel for a reason. Putting aside the nightmare future he posited in the book, he saw instinctively that an England intimately interconnected with the United States was a bulwark against the Continental Fevers.

The spirit that animated Runnymede is certainly dimmed, but I don't think down-and-out for the count just yet--and may well be ripe for reanimation. Time will tell.

28 posted on 02/24/2005 3:14:54 AM PST by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had not feet.")
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To: MadIvan
Uh-huh...you sound just like every preening, silly, leftist I've ever run across in debate; uttering semi-slanders when challenged & seriously called on their nonsense, and then pleading some kind of "abuse" when the target of said semi-slanders & nonsense won't just roll over and take it--and when they've found themselves, as you obviously have here, outmatched on every intellectual front.

"Pathetic" it 'tis, indeed...

29 posted on 02/24/2005 3:22:52 AM PST by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had not feet.")
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To: A Jovial Cad

You done yet?

Ivan


30 posted on 02/24/2005 3:24:43 AM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: maestro

"The Brits rejected the Idea of a Constitution of the Sovereign U.S.A.,....and they are today 'still' opposed to that U.S.A. citizen 'Sovereignty'

(That ain't very free......The British peoples are still 'subjects'...?)"

Thanks for an illuminating post. The 30 seconds or so you spent thinking about this subject was time well spent. Where can I catch one of your lectures, professor?


31 posted on 02/24/2005 3:26:05 AM PST by Bombay Bloke
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To: ijcr

Theodore Dalrymple is his nom de plume. He is published quite a bit in City Journal among others.


32 posted on 02/24/2005 3:26:09 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: ijcr
How Free is Britain?

Only as free as the United States of America backs them.

Any Questions?

33 posted on 02/24/2005 3:28:16 AM PST by MaxMax (GOD BLESS AMERICA)
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To: ijcr

"what is Dr. Daniels' nom de plume?"

C3-P0?


34 posted on 02/24/2005 3:29:35 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod ( I'm going to open Cobra Kai dojos all over this valley!)
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To: Michael81Dus
Buckle up, it´s the law, ok, I get this since it´s not a big thing and it serves you as well as the society both. But where does it end?

It doesnt end till YOU decide to end it.

Dont succumb to the impotence of the herd.

35 posted on 02/24/2005 3:30:07 AM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: Navy Patriot

Recently, a minister friend of mine from England was visiting, and attended church with us. We heard a very good sermon, but afterward my friend informed me that, while he agreed with the sermon, he would have been arrested for giving that sermon in England. My guess is that England is NOT very free.

Just to test the issue of England's freedom, publicly express the opinion that Islam is an evil religion of hate. Another good test would be to try and find your local gun shop and buy yourself a handgun for protection.


36 posted on 02/24/2005 3:30:19 AM PST by deaconjim (Freep the world!)
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To: leadhead

I remember the "good old days" when those buggers made us drop pounds shillings and pence and go decimal. I believe it was Feb.1971. Until then we were paid in Guineas ie one pound and one shilling.

Before that date, you could buy a newspaper for a penny and a decent bar of chocolate for 3d.

As an aside you could not exit the country with more than 10 pounds in cash and it was recorded in your passport.

O, Lord above, send down some doves.
With beaks as sharp as razors.
To cut the throats, of them there blokes,
that sells bad beer to sailors.


37 posted on 02/24/2005 3:32:39 AM PST by ijcr (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.)
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To: deaconjim

Alternatively try drinking a can of beer in a New Jersey Park (I did, I nearly got jailed). Light up a cigarette in an NY restaraunt or have your wife go topless on a Californian beach.


38 posted on 02/24/2005 3:36:08 AM PST by weegie
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To: Bombay Bloke
Thanks for an illuminating post. The 30 seconds or so you spent thinking about this subject was time well spent. Where can I catch one of your lectures, professor?

Your Welcome.

......a 30 hours series forthcoming on EXACTLY what 'happened' to the British subjects' Middle-Classes economy?

/citizenship sovereignty?

39 posted on 02/24/2005 3:36:26 AM PST by maestro
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To: MadIvan
I am...just as long as you are.

That's always been my policy, of course, Maddy old boy. Since about the first time you initiated an unprovoked flame-war with me, as I recall...(and it had nothing to with the U.K., either, for those of you wondering).

40 posted on 02/24/2005 3:37:10 AM PST by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had not feet.")
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