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To: Long Cut
Also, whatever the first biological life was, it certanily wasn't as complex as modern life. Begging the question. Your conclusion is your premise.

It's not a joke, and, Hoyle's strange ideas aside, it's not absurd. Ask yourself whether the simplest form of life isn't as complicated or more than a 747. If you begin with the impersonal premise, the replicating "life" wasn't always self-replicating. Something produced a high level of organization (hierarchy) without the intervention of a designer. Look up logical entropy, as opposed to thermodynamic entropy.

158 posted on 02/22/2005 9:30:37 AM PST by Chaguito
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To: Chaguito
Firstly: There is no such thing as logical entropy. Entropy comes in two flavors, informational and thermodynamic. Google agrees with me. "Logical entropy" returns 408 hits on google, none of which seem scientific. On the other hand "snoober" returns 1400 pages when limited to only English pages, and it's not even a word. Long Cut could learn three times as much if you asked him to look up snoober, rather than logical entropy.

Secondly: Perhaps you meant informational entropy. Informational entropy was named entropy because it shares some of the properties of thermodynamic entropy. However, there is no second law which governs informational entropy. Nor is there a first law of informational entropy. Informational entropy can be created, it can increase, it can decrease, it can be wiped out by a hard drive crash, or it can appear spontaeously with cries of "Eureka!"
188 posted on 02/22/2005 10:31:02 AM PST by crail (Better lives have been lost on the gallows than have ever been enshrined in the halls of palaces.)
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