[Zon]

Where is the post that you claimed way back that destroyed my argument/questions? Your latest post -- 122 -- is not the one you claim existed way back earlier in the thread.

Also, your response is wrong anyways.. Government didn'tt cause people and society to increasingly prosper. People and society prospered because people labored. Be it scientists or farmers or any other business that filled a market need.

If it weren't for the workers being nice enough to sell their goods and services to politicians and bureaucrats they would perish. Parasitical elites don't produce net values--goods and services. They drain values from people and society. Ostracism is on the way.

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*FWIW, Taxes and user fees are good when they are truly voluntary -- such as the FairTax -- and the money is used for the primary purpose off government -- he only valid function and purpose of government is to protect individual life and property rights and ensure private contracts are honored.

[Raycpa]

I find it very funny that you want to replace the income tax with the sales tax while calling the sales tax on cigarettes bogus. You destroy your own arguments better than I did.

(Throws frisbee for dog to fetch again)