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To: XJarhead
But that doesn't mean that people today who support secession or whom believe that Southern secession was justified share those same beliefs regarding slavery.

Time out. I am a man of the right, and I do not agree that the South was justified in secession on any level --- Constitutionally, morally, or ethically. Don't speak for me when you speak of secession as legitimate. It is not and never has been. I see it as a revolution without just cause.

But I also see it as having been inevitable --- destined to happen from the first shots at Lexington & Concord. The best efforts of the Founders, Framers of the Constitution and many brilliant and well intentioned men during the first eight decades of the Republic could only delay the inevitable clash.

And from a spiritual standpoint, I think Lincoln was right when he said that the War and the bloodshed was God's punishment on all Americans, whom he had blessed with so much, for the sin of slavery.

328 posted on 02/22/2005 5:06:28 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Ditto

Show me in the Bible where it says slavery is a sin.....?
St. Paul apparently didn't agree............


330 posted on 02/22/2005 5:17:26 PM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Sic Semper Tyrannis!)
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To: Ditto
And from a spiritual standpoint, I think Lincoln was right when he said that the War and the bloodshed was God's punishment on all Americans, whom he had blessed with so much, for the sin of slavery.

Does that mean you think AIDS is God's punishment to gays and Africans? Was 9/11 God's punishment on America for abortion?

Just wondering.

331 posted on 02/22/2005 6:40:19 PM PST by 4CJ (Laissez les bon FReeps rouler - "Accurately quoting Lincoln is a bannable offense.")
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To: Ditto
Time out. I am a man of the right, and I do not agree that the South was justified in secession on any level --- Constitutionally, morally, or ethically. Don't speak for me when you speak of secession as legitimate. It is not and never has been. I see it as a revolution without just cause.

Hold on. I did not say that everyone on the right agreed with secession. I simply said that there are people on the right who now agree with secession who do not do so for racial reasons. Nor did I say that I thought secession was legitimate. As a matter of face, I don't.

My view on secession is that the South's desire to continue slavery destroyed whatever right it otherwise might have had to secede, and that Lincoln was right to do what he did.

My only point is that people who disagree with my view on secession cannot be presumed to be racists, which is what D'Souza implied with that statement.

Peace, dude. I'm on your side on this.

332 posted on 02/22/2005 7:22:36 PM PST by XJarhead
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To: Ditto
I think Lincoln was right when he said that the War and the bloodshed was God's punishment on all Americans

So the end justifies the means.

334 posted on 02/22/2005 7:42:27 PM PST by stainlessbanner (Gather round y'all)
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