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To: Leatherneck_MT
Lincoln violated the very oath he swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.

The same could be said of Robert Lee, Jefferson Davis, and just about every other confederate leader.

264 posted on 02/22/2005 7:20:06 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
The same could be said of Robert Lee, Jefferson Davis, and just about every other confederate leader.

And if the UN commanded US troops to fire on New York City your response would be ....?

266 posted on 02/22/2005 7:28:58 AM PST by 4CJ (Laissez les bon FReeps rouler - "Accurately quoting Lincoln is a bannable offense.")
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To: Non-Sequitur

Where in the Constitution is the anti-secession clause, again?


267 posted on 02/22/2005 7:31:21 AM PST by Tax-chick ( The old woman who lives in the 15-passenger van.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

"The same could be said of Robert Lee, Jefferson Davis, and just about every other confederate leader."

No it can't. Lee, Davis, and others resigned their posts with the federal government, therefore, they had no oaths to that government to uphold.


270 posted on 02/22/2005 7:40:34 AM PST by Jsalley82
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To: Non-Sequitur

The same could be said of Robert Lee, Jefferson Davis, and just about every other confederate leader.

How?

None of them invaded the North until it became apparant that a victory needed to be won decisively on Northern Soil in order to gain foreign recognition.

Lee did not violate his oath when he resigned from the army.

Neither did Davis or any of the others.

The Federal Government had NO right, and still do not, to compel states by force of arms to stay in the Union.

The Power and Authority to Secede from the Union, for ALL states is contained in the 10th Amendment to the Constitution which reads as follows.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Nowhere in that document does it state that the Federal Government has the authority or the power to compel states to remain in the Union. As such, they do not have the power, but the States involved had every right Under the Constitution, to dissolve that union.

Now, I will change my mind if I can be shown proof positive that the Constitution expressly gives the authority to the Federal Government, to prevent states from leaving the Union.

Until then, my position remains firm and I believe, on solid Constitutional grounds.


296 posted on 02/22/2005 10:32:53 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (A Patriot must always be willing to defend his Country against his Government)
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