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My Darling, My Blood: Million Dollar Baby
Intellectual Conservative ^ | 18 February 2005 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 02/18/2005 1:10:19 PM PST by mrustow

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1 posted on 02/18/2005 1:10:21 PM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
Well, I've been waiting for someone else to post, but since no one else is going to allow me.

I know FREEPERS are willing to give Mr. Eastwood a pass because he once voted republican or because he is an economic conservative.

But to me issue of life trumps politics any day, and I'll never forgive "Dirty Harry" for doing a number on the Catholic Church and a bait and switch for his pro-euphanasia film Million Dollar Baby.

I've had FREEPERS tell me, well all the catholic details were simply there because it is based on a anti-Catholic story. To which I say Micheal Moore's movie was only Bush bashing because it was based on his screenplay.
2 posted on 02/18/2005 1:24:33 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
But to me issue of life trumps politics any day, and I'll never forgive "Dirty Harry" for doing a number on the Catholic Church and a bait and switch for his pro-euphanasia film Million Dollar Baby.

AMEN!

3 posted on 02/18/2005 1:26:45 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk

The character Rowdy Yates on "Rawhide" was a hand. The trail boss was Gil Favor.


4 posted on 02/18/2005 1:30:59 PM PST by MoralSense
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"Sometimes you can tell in seconds that a performer has no talent -- think Sean Combs, Jennifer Lopez, Ben Affleck."

Ouch. So what, are these people incredibly attractive? I've never seen a movie with any of them in it, but I believe that Lopez and Affleck are big-name actors. They're so famous that I, culturally disconnected citizen, recognize their names.


5 posted on 02/18/2005 1:33:49 PM PST by Irish Rose ("And I learned with little labour/to love my fellow-man, and hate my next-door neighbor...")
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To: mrustow

I like his old stuff, Josy Wales, Man with no name films, some of the Dirty Harrys. Thats about it.


6 posted on 02/18/2005 1:34:06 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton; mrustow
But she makes her own luck ... to a point.

This is the closest the reviewer appears to come to even hinting at the euthanasia plot twist.

P.S. Plenty of FReepers have criticized Eastwood for this movie.

7 posted on 02/18/2005 1:36:49 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: mrustow
It isn't just the Catholic Church that has a problem with this film. In fact, the Church doesn't have ENOUGH of a problem with it, as far as I'm concerned. A very favorable review of the film appeared in the Catholic paper here in Atlanta a couple weeks back. Last week, they printed my response to that review:
Having failed to convince the public that killing babies in the womb is courageous and compassionate, American devotees of the Culture of Death  have now trained their propaganda guns on the elderly and the disabled.  What Jane Wilson called an "unsettling turn" in Clint Eastwood's "Million Dollar Baby" is in fact a cinematic endorsement of euthanasia. 

Last month the National Spinal Cord Injury Association accused Eastwood of a "disability vendetta," describing the last scene of his film as a "brilliantly executed attack on life after a spinal cord injury." The group's chief executive said Eastwood was using the "power of fame and film to perpetuate his view that the lives of people with disabilities are not worth living."  The disability-rights group Not Yet Dead has picketed "Million Dollar Baby"  because, as one of its reviewers argued,  the film "plays out killing as a romantic fantasy and gives emotional life to the `better dead than disabled' mindset."

As the USCCB review of the film indicates, because of the artistic power of the film "our sympathies and humane inclinations may argue in favor of such misguided compassion, but our Catholic faith prohibits us from getting around the fact that, in this case, the best-intended ends cannot justify the chosen means: the taking of a life."

It hardly seems coincidental that such a film is coming out at the same time self-styled progressives are demanding that the state of California lift its ban on doctor-assisted suicide.  As the Terri Schiavo case so sadly illustrates, the Catholic Church is one of the few institutions in this country willing to take a stand for those whose lives depend entirely on the care of others.

Jane Wilson noted with approval that the Hollywood elite loved "Million Dollar Baby."  She did not mention that this is the same elite that rejected "The Passion of the Christ" as overly violent and propagandistic.  Not did she point out that our bishops have given "Million Dollar Baby" a rating of O - Morally Offensive.  I think Catholic readers have a right to expect greater moral clarity in the archdiocesan paper, even in the film reviews.


8 posted on 02/18/2005 1:36:53 PM PST by madprof98
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To: mrustow

we need some Hillary Swank pictures. Please, no Crusty pics of the other Hillary.


9 posted on 02/18/2005 1:38:57 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: mrustow
It's a movie. It's not an actual murder (which I believe euthanasia is, for all the FReeper busybodies). Saying one's against this movie for that is like the libs who think "feeling" something about an issue is equivalent to actually doing something about it. Same thing here.

See it, don't see it, no one else cares. But judge it as a movie, not as a pro-euthanasia screed, because if it were that there would be no drama in the decision--if he's doing something the movie's point of view says is a good, right thing, why is it shown as a dramatic decision?

"My dear, it's only a movie. Don't take it too seriously."--Alfred Hitchcock

10 posted on 02/18/2005 1:42:04 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Drowning someone...I wouldn't have a part in that."--Teddy K)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
..and a bait and switch for his pro-euphanasia film Million Dollar Baby.

Was Dirty Harry a pro-shoot-people-in-the-head-with-a-44-magnum movie?

11 posted on 02/18/2005 1:42:08 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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(That Oscar may have been a payoff for Robbins' years of leftwing political agitation.) Mystic River, a murder mystery set in Boston, was good, but not as good as its press. Its script, by the usually top-notch Brian Helgeland, was full of red herrings, and contained a scene involving the suspect (Tim Robbins) that, taken in isolation was great, but which contradicted everything else we were shown about the character. Typical for Eastwood's movies, however, the acting was uniformly excellent.

I have seen many of the movies cited in this review. Beyond Million Dollar Baby let me mention one. Mystic River was, I thought, interminable. I thought Robbins did a decent job in it. Sean Penn proved for the latest of a long line of parts that he doesn't know the first thing about acting, but he is quite the emoter. He also proved he can inhale fiercely through his nasal pasages. That's about it.

I thought Million Dollar Baby was well worth the time and money. It didn't make me cry. I didn't walk away feeling any better about euthanasia or anything close to it.

I went to it because my wife and daughtter wanted to see it. I normally don't care for boxing movies and never made it past about Rocky XXII or something like that. Female boxers do even less for me. I thoroughly planned to hate the movie.

Morgan Freeman was superb, as always. Clint Eastwood was also superb as a multi demensional character. I even liked the Hilary Swank character. I went to the movie planning to hate it and came away recommending it.

12 posted on 02/18/2005 1:43:04 PM PST by stevem
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I agree with Stix far more than I disagree with him but he digresses quite a bit from Million Dollar Baby. How can an actor be a life force as he would have you think of DeNiro? It is a silly appellation to hang on an actor.
Clint Eastwood is an amazingly complex guy; I really admire him and his work but what people are saying about him and his latest film dismays me. It reminds me of what is simultaneously happening to Tom Wolfe. Too many people, against all they have ever seen, expect to see an artists' career as forever ascendent. Recently I saw a symposium on Wolfe's Charlotte Simmons on C-SPAN where some of the participants criticized him for conjuring up a fictitious take on modern college life. Perhaps Charlotte Simmons isn't the priceless gem that The Right Stuff was, or Million Dollar Baby isn't the work of art that Unforgiven was but why let that disturb your appreciation of what these two genuine auteurs are offering us? Yes, these two elderly men may have lost a few miles off their fastballs but they still possess enough finesse to get the batters out.

The Oscars can't be taken seriously. My only interest in them is to ogle the comely young actresses doing the red carpet bit.

13 posted on 02/18/2005 1:44:50 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: stevem
I went to it because my wife and daughtter wanted to see it...

My wife came away ambivalent and my daughter hated it.

14 posted on 02/18/2005 1:47:03 PM PST by stevem
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RE: Catholic church supporting pro-euthanasia film Million Dollar Baby - just as this reviewer repeats the carnard that this is a movie about boxing and not about mercy killing - the Jesuit magazine America review of MDB couldn't praise it enough for its content and 'message'.

Pretty sick.


15 posted on 02/18/2005 1:47:35 PM PST by NHResident
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To: Non-Sequitur
Was Dirty Harry a pro-shoot-people-in-the-head-with-a-44-magnum movie?

Dirty Harry was not promoted as a romantic comedy.

16 posted on 02/18/2005 1:51:35 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: madprof98
A devout Catholic, though he doesn't look or preach the part

Why do commentators so often say a person is a "devout Catholic," when the person clearly doesn't believe the Catholic Faith? I guess it's shorthand for "performs rituals popularly associated with the Catholic Church, irrespective of belief."

17 posted on 02/18/2005 1:53:26 PM PST by Tax-chick ( The old woman who lives in the 15-passenger van.)
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Some FReepers seem to confuse the quality and skills of acting, directing, writing, etc with the message of the film itself. I can be impressed with the quality of a film and recommend it even if the message is one that I totally disagree with. Films that make someone think about their own convictions are usually good films to see no matter what the message might be. So I have no problem with a film like MDB, because in my mind it validates my position that these characters made morally wrong decisions. On the other hand, a film like F911 was pure crap because it was based on lies and distortions of historical facts rather than opinion. While I can tolerate liberal opinions on the screen, I can't stomach deliberate lying.
18 posted on 02/18/2005 1:58:18 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Darkwolf377

Amen. A voice of sanity...


19 posted on 02/18/2005 2:00:39 PM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
P.S. Plenty of FReepers have criticized Eastwood for this movie.

And as best I can tell almost none of them have actually seen it; they're letting Medved do their thinking for them.

20 posted on 02/18/2005 2:02:11 PM PST by Strategerist
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