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Restored battle tank readied for restaging of Iwo Jima conflict
The Monitor ^ | February 18,2005 | Dulcinea Cuellar

Posted on 02/18/2005 12:29:49 PM PST by SwinneySwitch

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To: Radix

Most definitely they were used. The most effective being the Shermans with the flamethrower built in. The tanks helped provide cover for the Marines and soldiers while they were stuck along the beaches trying to move inland.


21 posted on 02/18/2005 12:58:38 PM PST by SFC Chromey (Was deployed 26 of the last 48 months, don't call me a part-timer!)
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To: SwinneySwitch; TexasCowboy; Flyer; Eaker; humblegunner

I told a history teacher friend of mind this week I would have gone over if they would have let me dress like the Japanese and shoot at marines! ;-)


22 posted on 02/18/2005 12:59:06 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Redneck from a red city, in a red county, in a red state, and a former Red Leg.)
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To: llevrok

I read Flyboys. Highly recommended !


23 posted on 02/18/2005 1:01:36 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Professional Engineer

*!*

Restored tank?
And I missed it?!


24 posted on 02/18/2005 1:02:11 PM PST by Darksheare (It is not a ZOT, it is aggressive electro-dermal exfoliation! Yeeeeeeeeeeeagh!)
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To: llevrok; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

A great person gave me "Fly Boys" on tape just before a long drive last year. It is an amazing work, and parts of it made me want to weep. I have shared that work with a few persons. I have also since heard the author speak of the subject in interviews.

I have been to the Iwo Jima Monument in Arlington a few times and I was quite impressed each time. Still, I have not researched the subject of the actual event.

I simply never thought about tanks being used on South Pacific islands. The logistics of getting such equipment there in those days seem quite formidable to me.

Incidently, I saw recently that Clint Eastwood is preparing to make a new movie on the Battle of Iwo Jima!

BTW, Ping!


25 posted on 02/18/2005 1:03:03 PM PST by Radix (This country needs a seriously good buggy whip government subsidy program.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Flags of our fathers is a good read too. Great premise: what the five guys were like before, during and after the war. Young puppies like me (age 54 and younger) need to learn what the country was like in the 30's and what our fighters were like in WW2. It is very humbling.


26 posted on 02/18/2005 1:05:06 PM PST by llevrok (Don't blame me, I voted for Pedro!)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Like you ever ask permission to do anything.

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(except from Mrs. Curmudgeon)

27 posted on 02/18/2005 1:09:35 PM PST by Flyer (Got Domain? - $8.99 a Year! - https://dahtcom.nameservices.net)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Psssttt: Over here. Anybody want to buy a tank? How about a T-72? Guaranteed to piss off the neighbors.

Just go to the image source and drop them a line.

28 posted on 02/18/2005 1:10:39 PM PST by datura (Stress is best relieved using therapeutic high explosives.)
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To: don'tbedenied
I thought they were gas too.

I think it depends on the variant. The M4A1 had a Continental R974 C4 9 cylinder 4 cycle radial gasoline motor. The M4A2, a GMC 6046 12 cylinder (6/engine) 2 cycle twin in-line diesel. The M4A3 a Ford GAA 8 cylinder 4 cycle 60° V gasoline. The M4A4, a Chrysler A57 30 cylinder 4 cycle multibank gasoline motor. The M4A6 an Ordnance Engine RD-1820 9 cylinder 4 cycle radial diesel.

The Marine Corps variants had some interesting features, some of which you can see in the photo, like the thick wooden boards on the sides to deter magnetic mines, and engine snorkels.

29 posted on 02/18/2005 1:10:41 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Surrender" is a French word. "Fight" is an Anglo-Saxon word!)
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30 posted on 02/18/2005 1:22:24 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (America, bless God!)
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To: datura

I have part of a T-72. Does that count?


31 posted on 02/18/2005 1:24:39 PM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: SwinneySwitch

All I can add to this discussion is my husband's childhood memory of watching the manufacturer testing the Sherman tanks as they came off the assembly line at Chrysler.

My husband grew up in Detroit. During WWII all the auto manufacturers were converted to military production. Chrysler had a "proving ground" in his neighborhood with bleacher seats and the neighbors would bring the kids over on Saturday mornings to watch men test the tanks. The earliest models didn't work very well, according to my husband.

Can you imagine a show like that with military hardware production today?

My father in law worked for GE during the day, but at night he had his own machine shop in the basement where he and a couple of his friends milled precision airplane parts for the Army Air Corps on a sub-contract basis. I think they were for the P-38.

My husband's first job was sweeping the shop for his dad at about age 7. My husband is now 67 and we own our own manufacturing company -- but he still sweeps the shop from time to time.


32 posted on 02/18/2005 1:25:19 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic (...musing in Wisconsin)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Geez, looks like the tank the cooks used to drive over the meat to tenderize it. Leftovers we used for armor plating.


33 posted on 02/18/2005 1:28:08 PM PST by sergeantdave (Smart growth is Marxist insects agitating for a collective hive.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

34 posted on 02/18/2005 1:29:10 PM PST by pabianice
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To: don'tbedenied

The Shermans in Europe were extremely vulnerable. German tanks were generally much better armored and better-armed; the long-barrelled 75mm gun on the later Panzer IVs and the excellent Panther, the 88mm gun on the Tiger, and especially the infamous Flak 36 88mm antitank/antiaircraft gun, could all shred Shermans at fairly long range. Plus they caught fire easily.

But the Shermans were much more mechanically reliable, and most importantly, there were a lot more of them. It was said that a Tiger could kill four Shermans...but there was always a fifth one there to finish off the Tiger!

}:-)4


35 posted on 02/18/2005 1:30:58 PM PST by Moose4 (http://www.livejournal.com/~moose4. Because the Internet was made for self-important wanking.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Also: I think Shermans had gasoline engines originally. Perhaps the Russians upgraded them to diesel.

There were God knows how many engine variants.

36 posted on 02/18/2005 1:32:04 PM PST by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"All those Border Patrol agents want to see rent it."
37 posted on 02/18/2005 1:35:24 PM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: Moose4

If the Germans hadn't been so obsessed with technology (read:constant upgrades and "improvements", and constant introduction of "newer" models of all their major systems), they might have been a little more of a problem.


38 posted on 02/18/2005 1:39:12 PM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: archy; Gringo1; Matthew James; Fred Mertz; Squantos; colorado tanker; The Shrew; SLB; BCR #226; ...

Treadhead Ping


39 posted on 02/18/2005 1:39:52 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Kandahar Airfield -- “We’re not on the edge of the world, but we can see it from here")
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Marine Sherman bump!


40 posted on 02/18/2005 1:43:38 PM PST by SAMWolf (My cow died so I don't need your bull anymore.)
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