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Extolling the Jews' greatest papal friend
Cleveland Jewish News ^ | 2-17-05 | MARILYN H. KARFELD

Posted on 02/17/2005 6:40:45 PM PST by SJackson

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1 posted on 02/17/2005 6:40:46 PM PST by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
2 posted on 02/17/2005 6:41:46 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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It is considered by some that in evaluating the Papacy, of John Paul II and judging it harshly is being sacrilegious. However, history will condemn him and eventually society will recognize his much vaunted deeds as style over substance.

3 posted on 02/17/2005 7:13:52 PM PST by ijcr
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To: NYer

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4 posted on 02/17/2005 7:30:46 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: ijcr

... there is a little line about not judging others in scripture. John Paul II has worked so hard and for so many years. I will not take one instance that I don't understand and dismiss all he has done as "style over substance".


5 posted on 02/17/2005 7:43:55 PM PST by MassRepublican
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To: ijcr; SJackson
Take the right, and pray for the difference.

Thanks for the ping, SJ.

6 posted on 02/17/2005 8:03:25 PM PST by onedoug
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To: ijcr

The Great Triumvirate of the latter 20th Century---Ronaldus Maximus Reaganus, Maggie (now don't go all wobbly on us) Thatcher, and this pope..

May God bless them all.

RD


7 posted on 02/17/2005 8:51:47 PM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: SJackson
The Hidden Pope is an interesting book about the lives of Karol Wojtyla and Jerzy Kluger from their childhood in pre-WWII Poland through their collaboration as Pope John Paul II and Kluger. This collaboration helped facilitate the Vatican's official recognition of Israel in 1994.
8 posted on 02/17/2005 8:52:44 PM PST by mista science
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To: ijcr

The caption on that picture is totally FALSE!! The Pope is not symbolically accepting anything of the sort, he's simply being courteous, gracious, and DIPLOMATIC. He is, after all, a Head of State, as well as the Earthly Leader of the World's Catholics. What did anyone expect him to do, spit on it?


9 posted on 02/17/2005 9:10:06 PM PST by SuziQ
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The pope's prayer at the Western Wall, where millions of Jews have prayed since the Romans destroyed the temple, "acknowledged the whole validity of Jewish prayer," Dalin said. "He affirmed Judaism, with no political, theological or social caveat."

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10 posted on 02/18/2005 6:03:37 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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"...He affirmed Judaism, with no political, theological or social caveat."

That pretty much says it all, doesn't it?
Church teachings, dogma, and practices over 1,500 years tell us that there are theological, social, political caveats to be engaged as we follow our one, true, Roman Catholic faith.

11 posted on 02/18/2005 6:12:05 AM PST by vox_freedom (Fear no evil)
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To: SuziQ

Exactly.


12 posted on 02/18/2005 6:16:24 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246; SuziQ; vox_freedom
The Koran pic gets trotted out when people want to accuse the Pope of apostasy. Generally, kissing a that book is a custom of diplomacy. The Pope would do anything to keep the Church running in the Mideast, most notably Saudi Arabia.

I am surprised the clown pic hasn't been trotted out by now, or the claim that the Church is building a Hindi Temple at Fatima.

One other thing, why wouldn't Jewish Prayer be heard by God, after all, doesn't he know the hairs on your head, or where the sparrow falls? There are theological differences, of course, if there were none, we would invite all these people to Communion at Mass freely.
13 posted on 02/18/2005 7:57:46 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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There are many that evoke that line and forget to read the next sentence. "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be
measured to you."

Surprisingly few people have read his book "Crossing the Threshold of Hope".The Pope's rejection of the view that there is a lack of governance and discipline in the Church , his focus on Marism,mysticism,tolerance of Islam, and condemnation of Buddhism leave one to the conclusion that certain tenets of the Catholic faith are not important to this Pope.

I do not denigrate the man or his office and one can only admire his opposition to contraception, abortion and euthanasia,yet his stewardship has been an unmitigated disaster.
14 posted on 02/18/2005 8:21:42 AM PST by ijcr (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.)
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Being the biggest target, the Catholic Church attracts a plethora of poor marksmen.


15 posted on 02/18/2005 9:24:20 AM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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You should make that comment your tagline ;-D


16 posted on 02/18/2005 9:36:08 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: ijcr
I do not denigrate the man or his office...

From:http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=denigrate

den·i·grate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dn-grt) tr.v. den·i·grat·ed, den·i·grat·ing, den·i·grates

1) To attack the character or reputation of; speak ill of; defame.

2) To disparage; belittle: The critics have denigrated our efforts.

...his stewardship has been an unmitigated disaster.

... history will condemn him and eventually society will recognize his much vaunted deeds as style over substance.

I do not denigrate the man or his office...

17 posted on 02/18/2005 9:39:24 AM PST by Barnacle (Being the biggest target, the Catholic Church attracts a plethora of poor marksmen.)
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Pope accepting of Islam doctrine?

So, when Rummy shook hands with Saddam back in Reagan's day he was accepting of all of Saddam's horrific acts?

I don't follow your logic. Perhaps you should see both Jesus and the Pope as theives that steal souls away from the devil. The Pope isn't bound by Islamic doctrine. It's the Islamic clerics who are tied up and struggling against their lies.

Furthermore, "history" doesn't judge. God Judges all, and it's His judgment that matters. Since God is the author of history, we'll see who's held in higher regard when time is complete. Us bloggers don't matter much when compared to the Pope. We don't risk enough to have more than the required respected regard. The Pope risks his entire self all the time. Thus, I'll side with the Pope and not worry about single frame photos and quick captions sniping at his character.


18 posted on 02/18/2005 9:50:56 AM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child. "Fetus" means "young one".)
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To: NYer
Consider it done

?:^T

19 posted on 02/18/2005 9:51:10 AM PST by Barnacle (Being the biggest target, the Catholic Church attracts a plethora of poor marksmen.)
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To: ijcr

The caption underneath that picture is a lie. Stop spreading it.


20 posted on 02/18/2005 10:08:22 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (George W. Bush -- The Terror of the Terrorists)
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