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Now this avenue of attack.
1 posted on 02/17/2005 4:36:13 PM PST by drt1
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An avenue of attack that is wide open because, alas, it is true.


2 posted on 02/17/2005 4:37:32 PM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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why is the FBI involved in a state issue like this..did a Boy Scout cross state lines...?????????


3 posted on 02/17/2005 4:41:53 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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It's silly. Every club I've ever been in has a membership roster that consists of everyone who showed up the first day. Rarely are the people who actually participate in the club even half of that number.


4 posted on 02/17/2005 4:42:31 PM PST by explodingspleen (http://mish-mash.info/)
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While this won't help much I did notice that all of the Fraud reported was from large/blue cities.


5 posted on 02/17/2005 4:42:33 PM PST by rocksblues (Liberalism is a sickness not a political ideology)
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To: drt1; RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Da Jerdge; Looking for Diogenes; ...

Scouts Have Honor, some of the adults don't it seems.


6 posted on 02/17/2005 4:46:03 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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I'm sad to report about Troop 20 Orange Park (First Baptist Church Orange Park). We have a guy who is a financial worker for a rail company who is working with ex-eagle scouts to defraud Phillip Morris (One of the ex-scout's employer) out of matching fund contributions.

I tried explaining that it is wrong ethically, morally, and legally to give money to someone so they can defraud their employer. My concerns fell on deaf ears.

I have walked away from the scouts because of this issue. Evil knows no bounds even in the reddest county in a red state.


8 posted on 02/17/2005 4:48:39 PM PST by Triggerhippie
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Which reminds me...I wonder how that IRS investigation of Jesse Jackson's Rainbow/PUTSCH operation is going.


9 posted on 02/17/2005 4:50:07 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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After some of my own experiences as a youth within Scouting, I wouldn't put it past my old council to do such a thing.

My troop had a disgruntled adult leader in it who later split and created his own troop. He tried to get half of my troop's stuff, and was good buddies with the council executive. Our troop refused to give him anything, and stuff started to happen. I was a youth at the time, so I don't know all that went on, but I will say that just as in any organization, there is corruption within the Scouts too. I won't say that there's more in Scouting, because while my own council was bad, I don't think others have the same sorts of problems.

However, this news source is all too kind to try and paint all Scouting troops as corrupt tyrants of their councils. Some are like that, the ones where the adults don't have the boys' best interests at heart, only their own position.


12 posted on 02/17/2005 5:04:12 PM PST by figgers3036
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This is impossible... Maybe they should read the oath..

Boy Scout Oath, Law, Motto, and Slogan
Scout Oath (or Promise)

On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.

Scout Law

TRUSTWORTHY
A Scout tells the truth. He keeps his promises. Honesty is part of his code of conduct. People can depend on him.

LOYAL
A Scout is true to his family, Scout leaders, friends, school, and nation.

HELPFUL
A Scout is concerned about other people. He does things willingly for others without pay or reward.

FRIENDLY
A Scout is a friend to all. He is a brother to other Scouts. He seeks to understand others. He respects those with ideas and customs other than his own.

COURTEOUS
A Scout is polite to everyone regardless of age or position. He knows good manners make it easier for people to get along together.

KIND
A Scout understands there is strength in being gentle. He treats others as he wants to be treated. He does not hurt or kill harmless things without reason.

OBEDIENT
A Scout follows the rules of his family, school, and troop. He obeys the laws of his community and country. If he thinks these rules and laws are unfair, he tries to have them changed in an orderly manner rather than disobey them.

CHEERFUL
A Scout looks for the bright side of things. He cheerfully does tasks that come his way. He tries to make others happy.

THRIFTY
A Scout works to pay his way and to help others. He saves for unforeseen needs. He protects and conserves natural resources. He carefully uses time and property.

BRAVE
A Scout can face danger even if he is afraid. He has the courage to stand for what he thinks is right even if others laugh at or threaten him.

CLEAN
A Scout keeps his body and mind fit and clean. He goes around with those who believe in living by these same ideals. He helps keep his home and community clean.

REVERENT
A Scout is reverent toward God. He is faithful in his religious duties. He respects the beliefs of others.

AWARE
A Scout knows when to testify when faggots like Michael Jackson trys to penile penetrate his azz and then blames it on the parents by using his Islamic greasy brother Jermaine to go on tak shows.

Scout Motto

Be Prepared

Scout Slogan

Do a Good Turn Daily


13 posted on 02/17/2005 5:07:12 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: drt1

The ACLU must be behind this one.


16 posted on 02/17/2005 5:13:08 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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"I remembered hearing the registrar and some of the professional staff joking about who's got a gold fish, who's got a cat or a dog," she says. "[In other words,] who's got a name I can put in?”.....

The FBI is investigating THIS?? At least Boy Scouts only count living organisms, unlike some political parties I know!

Let's see ... dead men voting in a Presidential Election, or Boy Scout Leaders padding membership rolls with goldfish? Which does the FBI go after? (OK, Freepers, answer this question and see if your get the RIGHT answer below!!

17 posted on 02/17/2005 5:15:38 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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"I remembered hearing the registrar and some of the professional staff joking about who's got a gold fish, who's got a cat or a dog," she says. "[In other words,] who's got a name I can put in?”.....

Was this the registrar at the Boy Scouts, or at the Democrat's "Vote or Die" rally?

23 posted on 02/17/2005 5:39:17 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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The whole reason the FBI is involved is because some firms...such as the United way, do matching dollars for each registered scout. Within Scouting there is tremendous pressure on the paid Scout employee's to increase membership. Councils are usually led by 1 of 2 types of Executive personalities. Either Fiscally driven or Program driven. If the council is more interested in Fiscal numbers than the boys programs, that is where some Leaders start to lose their way. In ANY instance of this type of fraud, the end does not justify the means, and the Leaders in these cases should be banned from participating in Scouting. Just my opinion, but not what I want my boy to learn from Scouting.


28 posted on 03/08/2005 11:45:04 AM PST by ScoutJRR
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