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To: DannyTN
"There's a theory I have about God and time. God interacts with time differently than we do. This must be true for Him to be able to tell us the future, and yet we have free will. But If He can tell us now about the future because He's been there, then He can also go into the past from here and change things. It's possible that He created the Earth when there were no stars, go to day 4 of the Creation week and created the stars, but created them at a point in time, far enough back to have the light arrive at Day 4. This wouldn't be deceptive. It would just be a demonstration of His power, that we arrogantly took to mean He had lied, because we didn't understand the scope of His power."

This seems like a bizarre approach to bend science to equate with your religious belief. Two huge problems with this are that:

1)Free will and predeterminism are mutually exclusive. If you can know what state a system will be at any point in time it is by definition a deterministic system.

2)According to the laws of Quantum mechanics, the spin of a particle (to give one example) cannot be known before it is measured, not even by God. Therefore it is impossible for anyone, even God, to know the future.
106 posted on 02/17/2005 9:17:12 PM PST by Moral Hazard (Sod off, Swampy)
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To: Moral Hazard
1)Free will and predeterminism are mutually exclusive. If you can know what state a system will be at any point in time it is by definition a deterministic system.

Yet God knows the future of people who have free will. It is not a deterministic system, because we have a choice. It is not a choice that is forced on us. But rather it is a choice that we are held accountable for.

2)According to the laws of Quantum mechanics, the spin of a particle (to give one example) cannot be known before it is measured, not even by God. Therefore it is impossible for anyone, even God, to know the future.

Then we either don't understand the law completely or we are applying the law wrong. God can and has repeatedly demonstrated knowledge of the future.

It is entirely possible, even likely that the creator of the universe, understands what is possible and what is not possible in this universe, much better than we do.

157 posted on 02/18/2005 9:01:11 AM PST by DannyTN (66)
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