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To: HolgerDansk
"Geer,D.; Pfleeger,C; Schneier,B.; Quarterman,J.; Metzger,P.; Bace,R; Gutman,P."CyberInSecurity: The Cost of Monopoly", Computer and Communications Industry Association, Sept. 24, 2003, pg. 5"

I remember those clowns alright.
Wasn't their report thoroughly discredited after it came out they had close contacts with CCIA in preparing that report, at the time a Microsoft hating trade group?

That you have the nerve to produce this snake oil report just goes to show how increasingly desperate you are getting.
LOL!
233 posted on 02/17/2005 5:36:12 PM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: KwasiOwusu
Uhh, Bruce Schneier is widely recognized as one of the foremost authorities on computer security and cryptography in the world.

Unless you can produce similiar credentials, I advise you to shut up and listen to what the man has to say.

240 posted on 02/17/2005 5:43:29 PM PST by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: KwasiOwusu
I remember those clowns alright. Wasn't their report thoroughly discredited after it came out they had close contacts with CCIA in preparing that report, at the time a Microsoft hating trade group?

Well, let's see here. First you decry the Linuxheads for using "guilt by association". Then you promptly use the same tactic here.

The group in question never "hid" their association with CCIA, since the report was published by the CCIA. As for the CCIA itself, it's older than Microsoft(!), and does a lot of different work in the industry. So your claim of a "Microsoft-hating" organization is farfetched.

Finally, I know a number of those individuals personally, and they're all well recognized in the Internet security community. John Quarterman in particular I've known since the Morris Worm in 1988. (If John is rabid about anything, it's about quantifying and studying Internet traffic on a macro scale.) Given that, why should anyone listen to you?

264 posted on 02/17/2005 6:06:30 PM PST by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.)
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