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To: Coyoteman

I believe the fossil record records something other than what the science of the last 200 years says it does. And I believe the Bible forecast that this would occur 2000 years ago in 2 Peter 3 when Peter said people would forget creation and the flood because they assumed everything continued as it has from the beginning. That's a perfect discription of the uniformitarin view.

I don't think I've lost all sense of Humor. But it does kind of gall me that DallasMike and crew continue to call themselves Baptists, when they don't believe what Baptists have always believed.


35 posted on 02/16/2005 7:39:30 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
I very much appeciate your civil post. Sometimes that is not the case, even here.

No have idea what DallasMike and crew believe in terms of Baptist dogma, but am somewhat familar with scientific method and principles, and the results thereof pertaining to evolution.

Your wrote: "I believe the fossil record records something other than what the science of the last 200 years says it does."

I am one of those (even if on the periphery) who interpret the fossil record. I do other things now, but I once studied and taught physical anthropology/evolution. If there is some secret cabal that holds underground meetings to force everyone to espouse the same thing, nobody invited me!

I think that the vast majority of those who espouse evolution (note I didn't say "believe in" evolution)--when that vast majority of scientists who espouse evolution come to pretty much the same conclusion then there is most likely something there. If I could make a name for myself by publishing a scientific paper (i.e., one which withstands testing and criticism), I would be right there doing so, but would probably be trampled by a few thousand of my colleagues.

The point: Scientists want to get it right (and to be first to do so). There is no lasting credit in being wrong, lying, fabricating data, etc. In the long run, that is doomed to abject failure--the dustbin of scientific history. For example, Piltdown Man was outed after a few years, even if the official dismissal took a couple of generations.

There is no grand conspiracy to disprove any particular dogma or belief. Rather, scientists in the long run go where the evidence points, and they change their minds when they are shown to be wrong. That is the principle of "falsifiability."

On the other hand, belief in the Bible or creation science, etc., does not follow this principle. To those who believe, there is no way to falsify their belief. Fine. But, this is where they differ from science, and they should not call their field "creation science."

Anyway, its late and I haven't shaved. Thank you for a nice, polite discussion.

39 posted on 02/16/2005 8:17:47 PM PST by Coyoteman
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